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[–] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 140 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The behind the bastards episode will teach you a lot about this piece of shit. Wozniak is the genius, this is just another predatory businessman. Good riddance.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yknow, while I 90% agree with you there seems to be some element between the technical genius (Wozniak) and the idiot businessman that is Tim Apple.

Jobs may have been a piece of shit but there’s something to be said for the uncompromising non-technical focus on UX that allowed Jobs to make the iPhone a success.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

And when he got cast out of Apple, his drive created NeXT, which then became MacOS X. Still, good riddance.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Sure Wozniak invented the Apple I and II. But if he never met Jobs his inventions would have stayed a hobby and Apple would have never existed. Woz also didn’t push for an OS with a GUI (which was revolutionary back then) that was Jobs’ idea. Not to mention that Woz had nothing to do with Apple’s comeback. He has been an honorary employee since Jobs was fired. Woz is a genius but people give him way too much credit just like they do with Jobs.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jobs had no ideas. GUI, like everything else, was stolen from someone else. Apple and Microsoft both got big by stealing ideas.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it really stealing if you pay for it?

Xerox PARC had lots of great ideas, and then just never really commercialized any of them.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Woz had great ideas he never would have commercialized without Jobs either, no doubt that that was what he brought to the table: a pricetag.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

"Invent" is the wrong term, it's "design".

a new idea is an invention, the implementation is a design.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wow, they made 4 episodes about him, each over an hour long.

Haven't listened to Behind The Bastards but will give this one a listen.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

Oh boy, welcome to the Bastards club. Brought to you by Raytheon and Blue Apron.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

If you like that they're all pretty solid, but I recommend you check out the MKULTRA episodes. I thought I knew about it, I didn't know the half of it. I didn't even know about the one way mirror masturbatorium.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Careful, it's addicting, I've probably listened to over 100 hours of Robert Evans talking about the scum of the Earth now.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

Not to worry, I'm binging a few addicting podcasts already and I need something to fall back to once they run out. Recently discovered "Lateral" by Tom Scott (the youtuber).

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Still remeber an interview to Buffet in his time when he used to hang with Bill Gates.

It surprised me he considered Gates a talented investor, like he shouldn't supposed to be. I mean Warren, Bill is an investor as much as you are. Even Buffet was confused from the "tech nerd" aura of Bill.

Same with Jobs, Musk and so on. They're just good investors (and usually despicable persons).

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Im sure the iPod was Wozniaks idea.