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For someone that is engaging in a logical fallacy of appealing to purity with regard to source, where is your source on the political structure of either country?
The substack has listed sources for the information cited, did you see that? They are historical studies and documentaries produced by third parties. I'm curious if you can even find a western-biased source that disputes the factual description of how China's government is structured as described in the link.
What about the Edelman Trust Barometer?
https://www.edelman.com/sites/g/files/aatuss191/files/2025-01/2025%20Edelman%20Trust%20Barometer%20Global%20Report_01.23.25.pdf
https://www.edelman.com/about-us
Clearly the people of China trust their government and since you have yet to provide a source explaining how their government is organized we can only go with my source which clearly indicated that there is direct democracy
Sounds like they don't care about the truth, only making whatever their clients want to be "presentable"/accepted and how much they get paid for it.
And you're operating without understanding the historical reasons for it. For the Chinese people the CCP is leagues better than what came before. What came before the CCP was....quite bad. So from their POV and objectively, yes the CCP is pretty decent for the Chinese people as they would sacrifice things like freedom of speech because of the stability the CCP provides.
But what's good for them does not automatically translate to good for the world, especially in countries where basic human rights have been somewhat enjoyed to varying degrees
"Better than what became before" is not the same as good. Just saying.
Well yea, but one of the favored line of arguments is the "The CCP has a 95% approval rating!", which is probably true, but there's a good reason for it. And you know I don't blame the Chinese people one bit, if all I and my parents had known was death and famine and an authoritarian government came in and brought stability and prosperity for the first time in generations, id look the other way on a ton of things too