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Manufacturers are slowly starting to listen to what car journalists and owners have been complaining about for almost a decade: Cramming all the car’s functions into a touchscreen is an inferior solution to having dedicated physical controls for key tasks.

Among the manufacturers known to be switching back to buttons is Volkswagen, whose latest vehicles have gone touch-control-crazy with functions either buried inside a touchscreen menu or relocated to an annoying haptic feedback panel.

We’ve known for a while that Volkswagen was considering putting back some buttons in its cars, but the manufacturer never officially acknowledged this. Now VW’s design boss, Andreas Mindt, has admitted to Autocar that this approach was a mistake and that the automaker is backtracking on this trend.

“From the ID.2all onwards, we will have physical buttons for the five most important functions—the volume, the heating on each side of the car, the fans and the hazard light—below the screen,” Mindt told Autocar. He added, “They will be in every car that we make from now on. We will never, ever make this mistake anymore. On the steering wheel, we will have physical buttons. No guessing anymore. There's feedback, it's real, and people love this. Honestly, it's a car. It's not a phone.”

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[–] octoblade@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am too young and missed this era of phones, but personally I don't like the idea of slide out keyboards. They seem like they would be very prone to dirt clogging it up. Would it even be possible to get an IP68 rating with a slide out keyboard?

The one phone feature I miss most is the alert slider from the OnePlus 5T I had. The 3 position switch is so intuitive when it comes to putting the phone on vibrate or mute. It sucks that no other phones have it, as I vowed never to buy a OnePlus phone again due to them never selling phones officially in my country. That, the increase in price, the trend towards more mainstream conformity, and the software deficiencies really soured my opinions of OnePlus.

My friend, you are in luck. I happen to have not one but two Motorola droids with slide out keyboards. The keyboard is a full plastic sheet that has raised buttons for the keys, so no dirt can get under the keys, but as you can see here although dirt can accumulate on the keyboard itself, this doesn't effect the sliding. https://streamable.com/9g509h

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the keyboards back in the day were generally dustproof, yes, with only the gap between the keyboard and the rest of the phone being an issue. the keys weren't like the keys on a laptop, generally, they were more like buttons under a solid plastic sheet, that's how they kept it from gettng dirty!

[–] octoblade@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah it was the sliding mechanism I was thinking of as a potential issue, not the actual keys themselves. Phones with keyboards that don't slide seem ok, but I personally wouldn't want one.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago

the sliding stuff generally wasn't a problem unless you buried your phone in sand or something, that would probably make the slide a bit gritty, but it was fine otherwise

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Now it probably makes me sound old, but I think a lot of you youths would be changing your tune after trying one. I was so much faster at typing and navigating on one of thase than a touch screen, even with gestures.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More like a formed plastic sheet with contact pads glued on the underside. The whole keyboard was just a PCB, plastic casing, and a button sheet.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

thanks, i wasn't aware of the specifics :3

[–] Warehouse@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Would it even be possible to get an IP68 rating with a slide out keyboard?

Maybe, but the competition at the time wouldn't have IP68 anyway.