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[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you been following media recently or have you been living under a rock?

[–] DaDaDrood@feddit.nl 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have been following media intensively. I am not saying that news about China is unbiased in the western media. I am calling out the lack of any sources in this weak ‘article’

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  1. As far as news outlets go, The Diplomat is rather well-regarded

  2. As an opinion piece, sources are usually implicit (since opinion pieces use the reader's own knowledge of current events as the context)

  3. The article points to this article for more context: https://hbr.org/2021/05/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-china

[–] DaDaDrood@feddit.nl 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1 I don’t know this outlet, nor am inclined to use perceived pedigree to determine the quality of news. I’d like to see sources, not news dresses as opinions. 2 Opinion pieces that try to be credible need sources or else I will disregard them as petty trolling. The title makes a bold claim, I want sources backing up that claim. 3 that ‘source’ is also an opinion peace without any sources.

Just show me where mainstream media is deliberately bashing China. If it’s that rampant it can’t be that hard right?

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Again, have you been living under a rock for the past few years? You can even look at the top posts of this community.

[–] DaDaDrood@feddit.nl 26 points 1 year ago

I’m not the one making bald claims. The onus is on the one with the claims. Just show me some sources!

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The evidence is right in front of you, yet you refuse to see it

[–] sparkl_motion@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then link the supposed data points backing up this claim.

You’ve refused to do so within this thread, only using “You don’t know!” as a reply.

Link the supposed data or GTFO. That’s what every person has stated and you’ve refused to comply.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone says they have data that disproves it

And nobody's provided any because they can't find it

[–] tombuben@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

No one here says they have data that disproves it though?

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s not a defense. Opinion pieces can be fine, but if you’re claiming that something is off the charts you should probably have some charts (or any points of data) to prove the claim.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Then... Disprove it? If there's such distinct evidence that counters the article, might as well use it in your argument lol