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That is not even remotely what I said and you know it
No, I don't.
Please elaborate.
Despite your stance/tone I’ll answer this in good faith and assume you’re genuinely asking even if I think you’re not.
The best lies/misinformation attempts are couched in 1) truths and/or 2) plausible things that can’t be dismissed as impossible.
It is plausible [insert any JFK assassination conspiracy]. Should they all be equally weighted? Is each equally plausible? No, yet dozens persist because they’re at all plausible. I say this as someone who says the least plausible scenario was lone gunman who was killed by some rando. I think it was a conspiracy. But it doesn’t mean I treat each conspiracy theory as equally plausible. Unfortunately it’s hard to 100% disprove basically anything, so even the worst ideas remain sticky if people want them to be true.
Thanks ❤️
In any case, all this is very little proof that the story is a falsehood. Obviously, by default everything you read online falls to the category "this may have happened", but that's all we really have.
The burden of proof squarely lies with OP. You didn’t ask me to prove it’s false. You asked me to explain my previous comment.
Yup, because the burden of proof is on the one who made the claim. But that only allows us to say the text is not necessarily true.
When you say the op is lying, that's a new claim, where the burden of proof is on you.
Actually the burden of proof not necessarily always on the one who made the claim. But it is on the person who has the less credible claim.
I don’t need to prove it’s false. I just need to demonstrate that, taken at face value, the more prudent thing to do is assume this post is at least partially made up. And given the details of it, the most likely scenario is that the story is not 100% true.
...although, because selling a house ASAP if you have a loan with large payments for it, is the only logical course of action if long-term unemployment is assumed, nothing to that extent has been demonstrated.
I have addressed this point several times across several comments. Surely you’ve seen it.
Repetition does not make an unsound argument sound.
ok…so why do I need to repeat myself…? You’re literally advocating against the thing you’re asking me to do.
Let’s also cut the bullshit and not pretend like you already knew that. You came up with this as a clever quip after you realized I’ve already talked about it. Can we please stop it with the childish games? Make your point or fuck off.
Uh, then I am sorry for the misunderstanding.
I have been trying to convince you that you should find some argument that actually holds water, or stop playing that your argument is sound.
In any case, you asked me to make my point, so here goes: Nothing in the post gives you enough data to claim that it's a lie. You can say that the claim sounds implausible to you, but you cannot outright tell that it's a falsehood, unless there is a reason to think so. And you say the reason to think so is that someone was doing the only logical thing, and you say – for whatever reason – that it's extremely rare to do the most logical thing in such a situation.
It's funny how you keep dodging everything I say :)
I made an argument you’re just too dug in to accept anything other than a filmed interview with the MAGAt in question.
I’ve dodged nothing. I’ve clearly explained my reasoning in multiple comment threads. You just don’t like it. That’s fine but let’s not pretend I’ve dodged just because you can’t fathom someone disagrees with you.
You're just saying "most people". 60 % is "most people", but that doesn't mean you can just assume the 40% don't exist. You're jumping into conclusions.
And no, I don't know if the numbers are 60 and 40, or even the other way around. What I'm saying that you do not have enough data to be as sure about this being a falsehood as you are.
I do agree that it's entirely possible that the story hasn't happened, but it's not okay to deem someone guilty of something based on a guess.
About likelihoods: if you cross a motorway on foot, you most likely will not be run over. If 10000 people cross a motorway at different places at the same moment, some of them will get hit for sure. Most will not, but that doesn't mean that nobody will. "Most people" ≠ "everyone". You haven't even told where the "most people wouldn't" comes from, but even if it did have something to it, it would still be only "most", not "everyone" or even "practically everyone".
Internet would be a lot better place if people did less jumping into conclusions.