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We have yet another example of the conservatives having only short term gain and quick profits on their mind. Turner and the liberals were right when they said that we have been building this country east to west for a century plus, and that we should have continued doing so. And now we are seeing Turner's predictions coming true, and a conservative sold us the fuck out and took the easy way Instead of nation building.

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[–] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (20 children)

You're talking about a foreign issue that is not Canada's number one pressing issue at the moment. Conflating it with the liberals who have the best chance at defeating the conservatives who will sell out our country, to the USA, who is also currently aiding the genocide and horror happening in Gaza and Israel right now...

Like how well did it turn out for the NoT VoTinG KaMalA crowd because they thought she would be terrible for Palestine? Don't be dumb.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (16 children)

I'm not conflating anything, I'm telling you to stop worrying about the candidate you dont like and demand your preferred candidate make a case on why they are worth putting the effort on showing up for to people who dont give a shit about politics. my examples were of what not to fucking do, and you immediately start doing a few of them. good job.

the US liberals (harris/biden/pelosi/schumer,etc) and those like them (you) think you can brow beat people into compliance by fear of conservatives and that doesnt work. all it does it cause people to tune you out and then ignore the election entirely.

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

Why are you trying to conflate Canadian Liberals and the Democrats? They aren't remotely the same party, the systems of government don't look anything alike and they aren't in cahoots.

And the Canadian Conservatives are fronting a guy who has stated his support of American style "Right to Work" legislation and other Americanizing government initiatives who went into politics immediately from going to school for international affairs against a guy who has spent years as Governor of two National Central Banks and created a number of international contacts across the Commonwealth in the international financial sector that can be leveraged and yet Conservatives are trying to paint themselves as "better for the economy". Pollievre has been utilizing anti gay anti queer dogwhistles in his rhetoric for the past ever as well. Fuck Right to Work bullshit and fuck anybody who wants to roll back civil protections. There's not a lot of places in the world as safe as Canada for queer people to exist so it's not like there's much better places to escape once the fortress falls.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not. I'm telling you that running a campaign on nothing other than 'not that guy' is a recipe for a disaster.

Do. not. fall. into. that. trap.

its a trap this entire thread demostrates people are actively falling into.

[–] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are literally describing the fucking conservatives with that. Their entire fucking campaign leading up to this moment was: WeRe NoT JusTiN. Lmao

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

step 1: stop worrying about what the other candidate is doing.
step 2: make a case why how your candidate is going to improve the lives of your fellow citizens.
step 3: success.

I see you still don't understand step 1.

[–] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

??? You guys already starting the misinformation station? Gtfo of here and grow up.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

What he's asking is pretty basic and on point. You're yelling at people to vote for a party that has failed Canadians in the past 10 years and people aren't exactly convinced that the new guy will bring about any change that will significantly improve their lives.

So why don't you try to convince us? What are your arguments for voting for them?

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