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The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 74 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like how this comment section highlights why a job fair specifically not for cis men is needed lol

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's so fucking cringe. I work in tech, I see how weirdly women get treated and I see their unusually high turnover rate. Early on I was told "women don't last long here" and it was very true, that woman in particular quit to do freelance work (good for her). Why can't women have a job fair? Men don't fucking need one, NEARLY ALL of the other tech job fairs are dominated by men.

[–] Soulg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm really being sincere, but why would men magically not need a job fair? They can also be unemployed and struggle to get a job. That's not a 2x specific issue.

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I guess I'll just copy and paste from my previous comment:

NEARLY ALL of the other tech job fairs are dominated by men.

[–] CaptFeather@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because men dominate the tech industry. It just doesn't make sense to hold one for men.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Eh... I think it does, but for different reasons. The tech industry has a relatively high rate of unemployment. Job fairs would be good for everyone.

I agree that women have unique issues in tech and a women-only job fair would be a good thing. I just think General-admission job fairs are useful now too.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Eh... I think it does, but for different reasons. The tech industry has a relatively high rate of unemployment. Job fairs would be good for everyone.

I agree that women have unique issues in tech and a women-only job fair would be a good thing. I just think General-admission job fairs are useful now too.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What’s worse is when you see workplaces that want more women for only the idea it will ‘bring up the standard’ like….I think there’s something telling about the culture alone if they need a specific gender to help understand better standards of working. I would hope they are hiring inclusively for more reasons than just ‘our standards are low cuz the men here are poo and we won’t confront them on it. We will leave it to women to mommy manage it for us. Know any women looking for a job?’

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why can’t women have a job fair?

Laws.

I agree with you, it's just not the way the laws were written.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah but been could be mature enough to stay away from it. Instead they act like they're being oppressed. All the other job fairs are already dominated by men.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah if there’s ever a sign that a group doesn’t need representation is when they brigade someone who does.

[–] Nima@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

some of the comments here are downright scary. women can't have a single thing, it seems.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

And article makes it clear what is to blame

The nonprofit says it believes allyship from men is important and noted it cannot ban men from attending due to federal nondiscrimination protections in the US.

lol

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this sucks. It doesn't surprise me, but it sucks. So many manchildren out there who only think about themselves.