I tried playing Harvest Moon on the SNES today and having played Stardew Valley for hours, I thought I'd try and see how tolerable the original Harvest Moon was in comparison. I know and understand it is unfair because there's a 20 year gap between Harvest Moon and Stardew Valley, while also discrediting Harvest Moon's later entries since there's more than one.

Harvest Moon to me is a bit hard to revisit. Having to get used to only carrying two tools at the same time, your farm doesn't seem as big, you don't have a way to know that you're tired as readily, you just have to watch for the signs and the village you visit doesn't seem as characteristic. It's a basic farming sim, it has to start somewhere.

But Stardew Valley does so many things that it is easier to revisit.

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[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I was going to comment harvest moon after reading the title!

A lot of the older games for me. They're just a lot harder. Like maybe they expect you to be willing to replay an area or a level over and over, getting a little farther each time until you beat it and I just don't have the stamina for that anymore, or the time.

Newer games baby you, they increase the difficultly perfectly along side your ability growth. They might even make a level easier if you've failed twice. Older games don't care if you're having fun as much. There was less competition (fewer game choices) and more of a "gamers like this. If you don't like it, you're not a gamer" attitude, and now games want to attract everyone.

I have become such a baby about games. I want to have fun the whole time! I can't handle failing over and over. I'd rather just read a book.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Same, this is how I got frustrated by Hades. I no longer have endless time to sink into a game to get good.

[–] Potatar@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The "story" of Hades is that the guy you control gets better over time and finally escapes. How else can you convey it? With text (cardinal sin)?

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

I don't think anyone is saying that the story of Hades isn't portrayed well with the rougelike style, but it's totally ok to say "I don't have time to play a game that's designed such that you fail dozens of times before you win"