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In light of recent controversy and its handling, the twice-a-year FediForum unconference for April 1st and 2nd has been canceled by its organizer.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I don't understand why people don't keep such comments to their anonymous, unofficial accounts. You can hold such views in private and still treat people with respect, but saying these things officially changes everything. The co-organiser is in a space where she should know better. She then even doubled down

When asked whether she still held her more problematic views in a follow-up comment, Young responded ambiguously with “I fully stand by the statement you are commenting on.”

In for a penny, in for a pound, eh?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

I agree but also very unlikely it would make a difference if they were only sharing from their personal account.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would you if it's something you care about and want to be vocal about? I'd rather know that she's full of shit and now out of the whole thing than supporting someone who spews against trans people on a secret identity.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would you if it's something you care about

Did you forget a word?

I'm having trouble with the rest of your post too. Autocorrect must've struck or something.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sorry, English is not my first language, bit I thought the post is somewhat clear?

I didn't forget a word, maybe a comma - in the given context, the meaning is "Would you keep your opinion for yourself if it's something you care about?" as the post I replied to suggested exactly that.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, English is not my first language, bit I thought the post is somewhat clear?

English is my first language and it was clear to me.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 1 points 39 minutes ago

Good to know, thanks!

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No worries, as a European, English isn't my first language either :P

And as a response: if my job depended on being on the "right side of things" I wouldn't make such controversial statements. Not only is it dumb in the moment, but also for the future. People are very polarised and even if she had changed her mind by now, there'd still be outrage "omg, look at what she said years ago! I don't trust that she changed!". Of course she supposedly doubled down, which is even dumber IMO, but you get the point.

I use this anonymous account because what the opinions I express here will probably evolve and I don't want any future employer putting me into a box due to a comment made in jest, rage, or whatever. Revealing your identity online for anything other than business is just asking for trouble.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 1 points 25 minutes ago

I don't think Fedi forum was her job, but maybe it is?

I strongly disagree with it generally being dumb to (unanonymously) raise your voice on a topic that might cause you problems in the future. It's a consideration of priorities and going "this is my name and I stand up for xy" (maybe by a coworker even) is usually more impactful than some anon accounts or persona. Of course it might impact your career or whatever, but for some people it's worth the potential consequences.

I too use (semi) anonymous accounts for different things, but I don't go "neutral" at work or anywhere really. Most political organizations won't work with only anons (Anonymous is an exception). Saying using your real name for "controversial" politics stuff is dumb? Hard no.

Also, which topics are controversial and which aren't is always subject to change. Maybe she lives somewhere where transphobic positions will help her? She's rightfully gone from this position and I wish transphobia would be a unacceptable everywhere but it isn't and she might find other people/orgs/position where it's a benefit even.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In pshych 101 they teach that sex and gender are two different things.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's great. Since when and does everybody take psych 101?

And just to give a wider perspective (regardless of her origins), not every language makes the distinction and some up until recently did not. Look at the translations on (wiktionary). Many of them are transliterations of the English word. Which is not a surprise since the concept of gender is quite recent (1950-1960s) and was most likely very US-centric.

We didn't make a distinction in english until about ten? years ago. Most people used the terms interchangeably. That's part of why people got so pissed off about the whole thing. Suddenly they were being screamed at by a militant tumbler user for using the wrong word when they were using it that way their whole life.