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[–] glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A problem I see with these collapse predictions is that they see the US as existing in a vacuum. There are external forces interested in the united states future.

  • China
  • Europe
  • Russia
  • Japan & South Korea (yes I think they have quite some influence)

From these Europe and Japan & South Korea are interested in keeping the American state stable enough as a counterbalance to the other 2. Russia is interested in Trumps and his likes stay viewing his effect on NATO, China likes Trump not as much, as the tariffs hurt the worlds biggest export nation the most.

I would go as far as saying Russia needs the Trumpian united states as a counterbalance to China as well. As Chinas economic scale and population still dwarf the Russian one.

East Asia and India in general will depend on the US as a Petrol state in the future, supplying vital fossil fuel imports for plastic- and chemical industries.

These external power centers are the deciding factors should the US become unstable.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 2 points 14 hours ago

The US has a number of institutional failures that need to be addressed if it's to have any hope of surviving and the Trump presidency is not only not going to address them, but has for all intents and purposes taken it as its mandate to specifically focus on exacerbating them.

It's dealing with wealth inequality by increasing it. It's dealing with political corruption by institutionalizing it. It's dealing with fragile and ineffective public health, public education and social service systems by breaking them. It's dealing with rapacious corporations by eliminating constraints on them. It's dealing with climate change by encouraging it. It's dealing with diminished international stature by alienating literally everyone. It's dealing with the threat of economic collapse by destroying international markets. It's dealing with the threat of social unrest by fanning the flames of bigotry and hatred. And on and on.

It's essentially the equivalent of a cancer patient taking up smoking. In a house lined with asbestos and uranium.

And at that point, it really doesn't matter who wants to save them or how much they want it.