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I have a 16-year-old son. I'm in my early 30s (had him very young) and a professional footballer. My son also dreams of becoming a successful footballer (he's been playing since he was 6), but he's just... not great. He's good, but not great - and in this extremely competitive industry you need to be at least great in order to even stand a chance. So I told him, as someone who's been doing this for a very, very long time & is active in this sphere, that he should find another, more attainable dream. He took it as me not believing in him, but I'm just objective and realistic.

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 131 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Eh, yeah, a bit of a jerk.

It's not the facts that matter, it's how you deliver them. If you don't focus on what the kid doesn't have, and focus on what they'd have to do to make it, you'd get the same thing done.

If you add in that they're expected, while still under your responsibility, to also work towards a secondary goal that's within reach without needing a ton of luck on top of talent, you set them up to both work on their dream and have a realistic fallback plan.

Doesn't really matter what it is, when the kid's dream is one that they can't make it purely by working at it, it's our job to prepare them for the possibility of success, no matter how unlikely, as well as presenting reality.

I partially raised a nephew years ago. He wanted to be a musician or a pro skater. Talented in both (more as a musician), but both of those fields take more than ability to make work. Even skating, which isn't mostly about who you know and what contacts you can make, you gotta bust your ass every single day practicing like a pro does, and start competing. I explained all that, showed him how to find information for himself, and said he still had to make school his first priority until he was an adult.

Well, turns out he didn't actually like competing, so skating went to the wayside a year or so later.

He started focusing more on music, and started doing small shows here and there, and liked it. But he did hit that wall where you have to not just hustle, but have the right contacts, or make them. So he switched gears like a lot of creative sorts do and got a job he thought might be interesting in the short term while he worked at music as a secondary.

He ended up enjoying that job enough that he decided to do music more as a hobby. Still does. He still skates too, and he's almost in his thirties now. He's also starting his own business in the industry he liked, and went to school to get a basic business degree per my advice.

You don't have to ride their ass, or insist that they abandon a dream. You just have to give them the best advice you can, and let them do their thing as long as they're meeting core necessities along the way.

It's even perfectly fine to tell them that there's limits to what you'll do and provide while they chase a dream; support doesn't mean you have to let them stay in the basement with no actual source of self support on a practical level. It just means that you give them the room to get there if they can while also navigating regular life.

Hell, it's perfectly fine to be blunt about their chances of making it at whatever. Telling your kid that he'd have to reach a level of skill that would take more work than realistically possible is fine. Telling him that he's got an incredibly long and impractical road ahead of him if he decides to try is fine. And it's definitely fine to say that he's got to do it on his own merits, without any nepotism or favors involved. You can even give an honest evaluation of his skills and athleticism, though you gotta be gentle with that.

What never works is telling than that they can't, that it's utterly out of the question and you'll never have their back. That's a recipe for a kid you never get to see as an adult.

Shit, man, who says you're even right? Get some outside opinions on the kid's skills if you're going to play the heavy and be sure you're right.

[–] longjohnjohnson@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago

This was a long, but great read. Listen to this man. I have had similar experiences and outcomes, though not nearly as deep as the OP above me.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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