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In the winter, I emit more when I WFH.
At the office, I don't need to heat my house. And my bike+train commute emits very little.
Great point, because the energy used to heat your office and power your train are imaginary
It's economy of scale. A centralized building can be much more efficient than many individual houses. Big emphasis on CAN.
It all depends on how wasteful people are at home, wether they commute by train or bike (or how much car trips they do while WFH), and how responsible the office is managed.
The last studies I saw posted in Lemmy about this highlighted the nuance, while people jumped on the maximum possible saving as if that was real.
I think you underestimate how much energy most commercial offices / buildings use compared to a house.
Presumably your house is not just a giant glass box though. If that office was not built and not heated it would offset your house Heating as well as everyone else's.
Obviously not all offices are skyscrapers, but the ones that are are insanely wasteful. Fun fact Heating and Cooling to Greenhouse is expensive and that's what skyscrapers are giant greenhouses they are wildly inefficient. And there are definitely tons of Industry that we just shove and to skyscrapers for literally no reason that they could be done from home without any change in workflow other than the lack of a commute
Do you really turn your heat down a statistically significant amount for 8-10 hours a day when you are away from home?
Yes, I do. It saves easily 50 kWh of natural gas consumption per day.
On the days nobody will be home, we just let the thermostaat on 13 degrees Celsius for the whole day. When we are home it's 18 degrees during the day.
Assuming you are coming home every evening and not living in a really cold area, your house must be badly isolated if it cools down so significantly during the day.
It's reasonably insulated - above average for my location, but it does get cold in the winter.
Obviously, I'm only saving this heating fuel on the colder winter days.
I don't know about them specifically but my family generally did set the automatic timers on the thermostat. Down to 55 when no one was home back up to 68 slightly before people were supposed to be home
Honestly fuck the downvotes, this shit ain’t our fault anyways. Tired of being told that it’s our job to fix the climate instead of the corporations that continue to make billions off of destroying it
That’s not a feasible option when our society has been set up so that not giving a shit about other people or the environment makes you tons of money.
while there is indeed no ethical consumption under capitalism, at this point it’s unrealistic to not participate in it
ok but what about everyone else
Your home is still heated to above freezing and your office is also heated. There's a net lose in HVAC requirements with WFH regardless.