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original post: https://feddit.org/post/10733288

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"This is why we don't need #US #cars in #Europe"

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[–] TON618@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine thinking tariffs are why these warships don't sell in Europe.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Their road tax should be based on engine/volume/passenger capacity.

If you need it for work get a commercial.

[–] TON618@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A transit or sprinter makes much more sense for commercial use in the vast majority of professions as the cargo space to vehicle ratio is much higher and you can lock the whole thing up.

The only profession so far I've seen where they make some kind of sense is for landscapers, and even that's debatable considering you can get sprinters with an open bed that is much larger then what's on these pickups.

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not to forget that many vans have an okay towing capacity, so you can just use a trailer.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Your not towing anything with the smaller transits. And they suck in winter.

[–] TON618@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Your not towing anything with the smaller transits.

Even the smaller vans can tow 1.5t. I'll concede it's a lot less then a pickup can tow but this is not "nothing" and plenty practical for lots of use cases you'd have in any city.

And they suck in winter.

This is the Netherlands, not the Yukon. We don't have 5 foot deep snow on the roads in the Winter. In fact it's been years since we had any kind of snow at all. We just have a mild chill and mostly just rain.

The off-road/awd capability's of any vehicle are almost entirely irrelevant in the Netherlands for the overwhelming majority of people.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Then get one of the bigger Sprinters. They're also available as 4x4.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Man Ive pulled literal tons of cable for 100s of KMs with those, the NV400, the traffic and vivaro. Winter times down to the back of the beyonds. Mind you our winters are wet not the coldest.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm genuinely not aware of a single country that takes vehicle volume into road tax calculations, but that sounds like a damn great idea

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Im a bit of a genius. But seriously I think it is the common sense move.