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Original post: https://bsky.app/profile/ssg.dev/post/3lmuz3nr62k26

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[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Several people have self hosted relays. Afaik nothing that anyone has used in "production", everyone just uses the default one. I expect that will change as people figure it out, and trust in bsky pbc drops with things like the current Turkish censorship incident

Example of self hosting https://bsky.app/profile/why.bsky.team/post/3lkwg2djrfk23

The code to run a relay is here https://github.com/bluesky-social/indigo

[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Your "example of self hosting" is not an example of self hosting the relay, just an appview which is still being fully dependent of other Bluesky services like the relay. It's pretty unlikely that the relay would be at all practical to host on a RPi5. But even if it was the problem still remains that the network is set up in a way where self-hosting it only results in you creating your own separate bubble, not meaningfully participating in the official one.

I also doubt anyone has selfhosted relays long-term since right now there's very little purpose to that and the resource requirements are massive as well as keep growing at a fast pace in terms of the disk space required.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

The whole architecture is built around content addressing and allowing every account hosting server (PDS) talk to multiple relays and to allowing mirroring.

The whole point is to NOT create bubbles.

People already run their own PDS servers and participate with the official bluesky network, and can talk to users there, because their self hosted PDS syncs to the bluesky relay.

If you run your own relay and appview it STILL works, and you can talk without bubbles, if you still link your PDS to the bluesky relay to make yourself visible to their users, and if you set your appview / relay to retrieve content from the bluesky relay then you see content from bluesky users too.

Self hosted relays do exist, they're just not open to the public (mostly used for archival / development currently)

[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 1 points 17 minutes ago

PDS is not very significant, it's just a tiny piece of the puzzle and doesn't really prove anything about the architecture. See this for more on what I'm getting at: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/113365406995624763

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Can you explain what do you think "backfill" means in the context of the linked post?

Sorry if that sounds disrespectful but we kinda need to have shared definitions for stuff

[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 hours ago

I have zero need to play games with you. Make your case if you have one.