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HMD Global, which makes Nokia-branded phones, has become the first major smartphone company to manufacture devices in Europe with its first made-in-Hungary 5G model, aimed at data security-conscious customers, now available for purchase.

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[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Here's the phone specs : https://m.gsmarena.com/nokia_xr21-12244.php

Personal opinion :

Cons :

Too expensive.

The screen is LCD

No sd card slot

Pros :

earphone jack.

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i would be willing to overlook those cons if they just allowed an unlockable bootloader. man i miss my 6.1 with lineageos

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I think Google pixel phones have an unlocked bootloader. I have a Xiaomi note 10 and they allow rooting the phone via their official app.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Android 12????

Edit: All the specs are omegashit and they dare ask €580 for this

[–] chaircat@lemdro.id 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turns out it costs more to make things in Europe.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

They could at least use A13, there's no excuse for releasing with A12 weeks before A14 is out

[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We live at a time where an earphone jack is considered a pro...

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nowadays, even the cheapest phones are sufficient in terms of power for the most demanding regular user activities such as social media , watching videos, taking good enough pictures and light gaming.

I few years ago, before Xiaomi flooded the world with cheap powerful smartphone, you had the choice between 4 type of phones : weak phone that crumble by just looking at it, weak phone, slightly more powerful phones and flagship. We now don't need to be scared that the phone will slow down to a crawl because you have too many apps in the background fighting for ressources. (usually 2 or 3 along the forced uninstallable pre-installed garbage ).

Every shitty phone trend ( no headphone jack, non removable batteries..etc) was originated by apple (obligatory fuck apple ), and each time, they were made fun of by other companies at first but because the extra money is too good they followed them later.

Now, basic features that were once the standard on every phone are what differentiate them.

[–] Markaos@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nowadays, even the cheapest phones are sufficient in terms of power for the most demanding regular user activities such as social media , watching videos, taking good enough pictures and light gaming.

Eh, try doing that with HMD's Nokia 5.3 - Instagram was a PITA with frequent long stutters and the official YouTube app was nearly unusable (NewPipe for the rescue). Oh and its camera app also kept randomly forgetting to actually save the photos I took after updating to Android 11 (which came with a year long delay behind upstream, so I was already out of warranty once it hit), and Android 12 update earlier this year did nothing to fix the issues but made it so that factory resetting would permanently brick the phone, so that troubleshooting option was also gone.

There were other issues with unreliable rear fingerprint sensor and touchscreen towards the tail end of me owning the phone, but I'm willing to consider those hardware issues with just my unit.

Yes, I'm a tiiiiny bit salty about that, mostly because Nokia is the last cheap way to get close to stock Android and now I just have zero trust in them and am forced to pay more for a Pixel.

Nokia 5.x wasn't even the lowest product range, they also made corresponding 3.x phones, but maybe those were better thanks to Android Go?

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The phone software is as important as the hardware.

The update to android 12 made several phones, including mine, very instable. I blame Google that 4GB went from plenty enough to barely enough to not crash the phone in a single update. Wtf is Google doing ?

I believe that since the companies headquarters are in Europe they can't have the same gain margin as companies in Asia so they're gonna sell crap specs / bad sensors at higher prices, although the phone spec isn't that bad for a 2020 phone but still it's a bit more expensive than it's worth at 290€. Them having a stock android ROM isn't because they care about the user but because they don't need a lot of devs like with a custom ROM. But apparently, It seems from what you said and the shocking comments on gsm arena that they had absolutely none .

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

More cons from the specsheet: Display is too dim, and SoC is too slow.