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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 61 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Alright, hear me out: we split up Alphabet. Ads and search can be one company, since those two are always going to be related, while Chrome, Android, and the hardware division become the other company. This should help reduce Google's current incentive for privacy invasion.

[–] SamB@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago (3 children)

No. You have got to split search and ads. Otherwise the web search is going to disappear completely and replaced by social media and ai. It’s for Google s own good.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Ad supported search is the only way people will continue to use the internet. I feel the only real reason the internet is so widely used is because of the accuracy and accessibility provided by search engines and without them, the web as it currently exists will die and become small factions of like-minded individuals on forums. Some people like that idea but I'll tell you, as someone who lived through the internet in that era, there was some pretty fucked up shit that came out of those spaces.

We need global agora and we need ways to stay connected on unified platforms and we need to maintain history and knowledge. The Internet is our species's latest evolution. It allows us to combine our collective thoughts and knowledge for better or for worse. Destroying the primary way to navigate the Internet is an awful idea even though the leader of that industry is Google.

[–] farcaller@fstab.sh 3 points 2 days ago

What's going to pay for the search part, then?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

its for our own good, honestly. fuck google.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unless is a five way split, it won't really change much.

[–] aleq@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What? Having Chrome become Chromium and Android being degooglified would be pretty huge?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

If it happened, but with only two companies it's so easy for shenanigans to happen. Companies partner up to screw consumers all the time. Harder to pull it off efficiently with more companies.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"Normal man" gets a new phone

accepts 6 agreements from 6 split companies

Same result, different road.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you shouldn't allow a web browser and an operating system be in one company

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Browsers should be open standards, like TCP/IP.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

browsers are not protocols but applications. how do you make an open standard for an application? was that done before?

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago

Well Edge is a fork of Chromium. The problem is its centrally controlled by Google and large tech giants, hence them banning adblock and such.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

TCP over IP as a protocol is an "open standard". Network implementations are nearly always strictly proprietary.

The "protocols" behind browsers are public. HTML, CSS, and ECMAScript are all well defined on sites like the Mozilla documentation. You are free to implement your own browser that follows these standards.

[–] sidelove@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I would honestly want the hardware division split as well. There's still an impetus to turn Android into a walled garden there, too.