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I dunno, I kinda don't disagree with them. Companies discontinue products all the time, and Google just seems to get a lot more flak for it.
Apples discontinued the iPod, and a bunch of different hardware devices. I'm about as worried that they'll discontinue the iPhone as I am that Google will discontinue the pixel line.
Google discontinue a lot more than almost anyone else though. It’s a meme at this point how often they kill things off. Does a website like this exist for any other company?
https://killedbygoogle.com/
Well, no, but that doesn't mean that it's an accurate assessment.
Additionally, have you ever actually read what they put on that site? If Google changes the name of a product, then they "killed" the original. If they merge a product into another, then they killed one or both.
Did you know they killed Google street view? It's now just a tab in maps. They also at one point had "leaving reviews of businesses" as a separate system, which they also killed by making it a core feature.
But yes, Google does kill more products than some other companies. They also make more products available than others. Apple has never developed a car, a series of bipedal robots, or blood sugar monitoring contact lenses.
So yeah, it's a meme. I don't generally take memes as honest statements of fact.
Google probably kills products that don't hit their internal success metrics, and this allows them to go on and try new things instead of maintaining products that didn't work out.
Have they made some questionable decisions? Sure.
However, for the Pixel to stop receiving these updates, that would essentially mean that Google is discontinuing Android development and there are much bigger concerns (ie Apple monopoly on smartphone OS).
Google will absolutely be stopping Android development in the relatively near future. They’re already making almost all the new features pixel exclusive, never making their way to AOSP.
Ok bud. They're making pixel exclusive features, because it depends on their tensor chip. The whole point of the Pixel exclusive features is to draw people to the Pixels over other android devices.
Do you have any actual sources for this, or is this just an assumption because "Google bad and kills all their products!"
Will Google also stop developing their other products that actually bring a profit, like their search engine and Google ads?
Their pixel exclusive features absolutely do not require the tensor SOC. They would work on any flagship chip.
The source is Google want to be Apple with respect to phones. They crave that locked down closed source OS where everyone is beholden to them. They don’t like that their product is used against them by their competitors who often do it better. They’ll drop android development in the relatively near future 100%, when they have their closed source replacement.
Ah ok, so this is just "Google bad and kills everything" got it 👍. Whatever you need to tell yourself to help you sleep at night I guess.
No? Not sure how you got that from what I posted lol.
Google aren’t going to kill android. I never said that. What they’re going to do is make a new OS for their mobiles and devices and stop android development. As I pointed out, they’ve already begun this with fuchsia and by not adding 90% of their new OS features to AOSP. They don’t want their OS to be open source anymore, that was just how they would capture the market they wanted.
The last few Android OS versions outside of pixels have just been essentially UI and security updates. Virtually no new features. Everything is pixel exclusive. This is their way of weaning off Android into their new closed source OS. They’ve already updated all of their Google home hubs to fuchsia.
Is stopping Android development not killing it? If there's no security patches, is it not effectively dead?
https://giphy.com/gifs/news-biden-joe-cnn-town-hall-XgfrHQLDgFy4b1XiRR
Do you expect Google to come and forcefully take any Android devices from your hands to consider it killed?
What would it take for you to consider Google to have killed android?
No, because AOSP is open source. Samsung for example has been doing far more for android development than Google have.
Google can't really kill Android because it's open source and every OEM has their own fork of it.
Ok so if Google can't really kill Android, then why are people upset or concerned about this seven year promise?
Also since Google has "Seven years of OS, Security and feature drop updates" listed as part of the specs of the 8 Pro, they have to actually ship seven years of OS (Android, you can't switch this to something else or they can be sued, and I'm sure Google wouldn't want to pay these fines).
So keep being upset over nothing?
Well they could definitely drop the updates in that time, that’s why people are concerned.
So then they are not patching security issues? Yeah I don't think that will go over too well, specifically with the EU. It may not be a quick and easy process, but statements like this have consequences.
I'm not sure I get your point, people should not doubt Google's promise not because they don't discontinue product but because everyone does?
More that the concern feels hyperbolic. You should feel as much concern of Google canceling a flagship product as you do about apple doing so. I don't see iPhones, pixels, or say, Kindles going anywhere soon.
It just doesn't feel like a reasonable concern, proportional to how much attention it gets.
I doubt people takes apple claim for granted either, they do have a class action lawsuit due to them volontarily throttling their phones.