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I mean, say, you want a really nice camera, or a drone, or maybe a gaming laptop, and since those things are made in China, they are too expensive to buy right now in the US, since tariffs are over 100%. So you just go to Canada, buy the thing, unpack it from the packaging, and pretend like its just personal items. Just like a smartphone.

AFIAK, border agents usually don't ask if you bought your phone in the US or from outside, they shouldn't ask about other personal electronics, right?

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[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

For residents of the United States the duty free limit when returning is 800 dollars worth of stuff. I believe that's every thirty days. You usually have to answer whether you exceed this limit in the declaration.

So you just go to Canada, buy the thing, unpack it from the packaging, and pretend like its just personal items. Just like a smartphone.

If tariffs become a big thing, this will definitely happen more, but it will also get a lot more scrutiny from customs as well.

AFIAK, border agents usually don't ask if you bought your phone in the US or from outside, they shouldn't ask about other personal electronics, right?

Stuff that you exported and reimported for personal or business use, but not for resale, is exempt from duty with no dollar limits. If you want documented proof that you are reimporting, you can register the stuff at a customs office in the United States before you leave.

[–] ERROR_100_000_100@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

For residents of the United States the duty free limit when returning is 800 dollars worth of stuff

Well, they just removed the de mininis rule...

Stuff that you exported and reimported for personal or business use, but not for resale, is exempt from duty with no dollar limits. If you want documented proof that you are reimporting, you can register the stuff at a customs office in the United States before you leave.

I'm pretty sure nobody registers their personal smartphone and laptop every time they leave the US for a vacation.

[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My understanding is that the de minimis tariff treatment for import shipments is different than the duty-free personal exemptions that apply for "accompanied baggage" when re-entering the USA and has the imported items with them.

Assuming this CBP page is accurate, the $800 exemption is one of three possible exemptions that can still apply. The $1600 exemption only applies when returning with stuff from Guam, American Samoa, or USVI, and the $800 can only be claimed every 30 day. The last resort is the $200 exemption, which is always available, and ostensibly is there to allow Americans living near Canada or Mexico to not have to deal with border taxation just because they had to buy lunch or gasoline during day trips.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure nobody registers their personal smartphone and laptop every time they leave the US for a vacation.

I agree with you on this, but CBP is certainly within their legal rights to interrogate you on the origins of your personal electronics, and they can make a determination that your stuff is subject to duty if it's over the limit and they don't believe you are reimporting.