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[–] pale_tony@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The stance is correct. ICE as an agency is a threat to our democracy. Debating the nuance doesn't help with the point that ICE is able to internally determine who needs to go. With the state of the immigration system and threat to due process people should be standing up to what they believe is wrong. Personally, I think what the judge did was right when the man was there on a pretrial hearing for a seperate criminal matter.

As to the case, a previous 2011 directive for ICE to avoid arrests in or near courthouses was rolled back by Trump. That's the same one that included sensitive areas such as schools. So now, under executive direction, they can enter public spaces such as courthouses to effect arrests. This has the chilling effect of having persons accused of crimes in local communities avoid court dates and further erodes due process.

Alltogether, ICE wasn't wrong here procedurally and by the the letter of the law. However morally it's all sideways. We don't know if that man would have been transported to another state detention center, given access to a lawyer or even allowed to contact his family. Seeing how the admin has operated, he likely would never have gotten a court date to even review his immigration case.

If you interfere with ICE you can face criminal charges. That's what they're pinning on this judge.

So the system by design is f-d up. Notice how on a federal level no officials or anyone else has been arrested for violating due process rights of individuals in those high profile deportation cases? It's a crazy double standard and the administration will likely pump this case up to show that they have all the power--including (albeit here with a local judge) over the judiciary.

Again, ICE is wrong and what the government is doing to immigrants is wrong. It's a broad threat to our rights and they're just getting bolder by the day. Operating legally does not mean you are operating morally.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I like your messaging. I hope it becomes the dominant message.