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    [–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 4 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

    If you have a 10 year old Linux intall you wouldn't want that to go away either. That has nothing to do with the OS.

    Stop being so "aggressive" against people's and let them have their own opinion. It is not helping to get others to get to Linux. What does help is to show people how it can be done.

    [–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    The first mistake is not keeping your 10 year old installation updated

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

    There a Debian installs that are like 20 years old. They have been continuously updated over time.

    An old install doesn't mean no updates

    [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

    Yeah I'm not really sure why an old install means not updating it or anything on it.

    Also, just because it's windows, doesn't mean there aren't package managers. And I DON'T want to update a ton of stuff for production reasons. I'm not sitting over here blindly. Are there are a lot of Linux users that think Windows users are morons or something?

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    Windows doesn't have true package managers. It is honestly a lot like app images on Linux. They do work but the core design is very different due to Windows not being designed to work with a package manager.

    On Linux App images are kind of like a exe except that Linux isn't designed with stand alone executables in mind so doing seemingly simple things like integrating them with the OS is hard. It isn't that they are bad but the design isn't necessarily aligned with traditional Linux. Same thing with package managers on Windows. They just download a exe from a link and then run it. Package managers on Windows are just software updaters.

    [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    Yeah and chocolaty and winget are both still pretty new and not that popular

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

    My point is that by design they will never be anywhere as good as a Linux package manager and that's ok

    [–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago

    That's what I wrote?

    [–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl -1 points 14 hours ago

    That’s not even a discussion if it was or wasn’t update

    [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

    But no one keeps a 10 year Linux install when upgrading is a trivial command. That's the whole point.

    Also, this is advice you're already being given for free, no one here cares if you stay on Windows or not. No one is going to help you more than that.

    [–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 8 hours ago

    You are missing the point and for some reason bring up the non updating.

    It’s about the switching from something you know and customized for 10 years to something new.

    [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    If there was a way I could like magically gender-swap my pc from Windows to Linux, I'd absolutely try it.

    Like take all the programs, and scrape all the internal data and stuff and move it to Linux. Take all the settings and logins and customizations from my ide's and workstations and drives and directories and symlinks and apos and drivers.

    God. That would be like a dream. Just press one button, and copy a system but switch its fundamental kernaling and systems or whatever. Honestly, that ease and already-built-up-systems-and-tools is part of the reason that I LIKE Windows.

    Some Linux distros have things like that, but they fall very short of the robustness of windows's job in these regards. Like, except for all of the MASSIVE GLARING PRIVACY AND ETHICAL PROBLEMS that the windows 11 upgrade kindly offers without compromise, it kind of is like that magical switch.

    But you've gotta realize HOW much I hate having to tear things out and add things and set them up again. It's a MASSIVE waste of time to me. And switching to an os that has less options and comes with none? That's madness to me. Absolute madness. Things running through my head about how to get certain midi controllers to work and stacking audio apos on each other reliably with minimal lag and routing in software.... Ughghh... It was hard enough in Windows. I'm traumatized. And I bet random things all over just wouldn't work.

    I'm one of those people that feels limited by my 32thread 128gb ram system. My next build will likely be either epyc or threadripper. Unless the tech (hardware) industry is just nuked from orbit by our inbred nazi conservative drooling overlords. Times are a' changin'.

    [–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    Dual booting Linux and Windows can really help to move your operation to Linux. I have been using Linux machiens besides my main for a while and now in the proces of moving to Mint. I won’t be able to move everything and some things are more annoying (like Nvdia GPU drivers), but the vast majority is easy. Especially because most people these days work in browsers for the most part. I (and probably you from the sound of it) are one of the few who still use a lot of desktop apps.

    [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

    Running an os, then a browser, then everything through a browser feels..... Like an unnecessary middle man.