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we're on a European board talking about Chinese attacks on European infrastructure. I'm not aware of US invasion threats to EU countries (which Greenland isn't a part of).
I'm aware of the Snowden leaks and the CIA worldwide spying networks. those are valid concerns, however I don't think the risk to privacy can be compared to the yearly cyber attacks perpetuated by China against the EU. Only one of these will be used in a potential war against us since the US is a NATO ally.
who cares who the US invaded in the past? I never said they didn't, you're bordering on whataboutism.
Are they still? They're not behaving like allies.
The same principle of strategic independence though can and should be applied to everyone, including China and the US. It's clear that US is not a reliable ally, it was very clear when they shut down F-16s remotely in Ukraine to bully them into submission. Nothing is stopping them from shutting down power grids if these are in their hands to push EU to do whatever is not in its interests.
It's not like the risk of invasion is the only criteria to use for deciding to be independent on core technologies.
i agree, if I had to choose I'd definitely want an economic/cyber war with the US over the much more likely conventional war with China
I think you are greatly underestimating what someone controlling the tech (note: here you don't need cyber attacks) for critical infrastructure can do. Shut down power and water and the war finishes before it even starts. Let alone communications, payment systems, banking systems, government websites and all the other services that depend on cloud (i.e., mostly US companies).
The new directive (DORA I think? In get confused with the names) does include for a reason the mandatory exit plan for cloud providers ready.
And I'm not aware of Chinese invasion threats to EU countries, now what? While not a full member, Greenland is an OCT member of the EEA.
I'm aware. But we have many security flaws that don't just involve China, yet nobody seems to care about. That's what the meme is criticising. It doesn't mean we should let China do what it wants, in fact I'm also in favor of eliminating such risks, but it's only ever "China this, China that", while ignoring things like e.g. networking infrastructure provided by the US. It's the one-sided reporting, i.e. red scare, that's annoying.
For how long though? And spying on politicians and high-ranking army officials is most definitely going to be used against us in a potential war. This already happened, despite us being NATO allies. It wasn't just EU citizens, they fucking spied on Angela Merkel and other EU officials. But yeah, nothing to worry about, they're our allies after all...
Keep in mind: "It may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal"
I do, and you should too, if you don't blindly trust your "allies". Accusing us of whataboutism, while you were writing about "Chinese troops in Ukraine" in response to a meme criticising the one sided reporting on security risks... absolutely wild.