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Chips aren’t improving like they used to, and it’s killing game console price cuts
(arstechnica.com)
this post was submitted on 04 May 2025
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Basically this is true, yes, without going into an exhaustive level of detail as to very, very specific subtypes and specs of different RAM and mobo layouts.
Shared memory setups generally are less powerful, but, they also usually end up being overall cheaper, as well as having a lower power draw... and being cooler, temperature wise.
Which are all legitimate reasons those kinds of setups are used in smaller form factor 'computing devices', because heat managment, airflow requirements... basically rule out using a traditional architecture.
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Though, recently, MiniPCs are starting to take off... and I am actually considering doing a build based on the Minisforum BD795i SE... which could be quite a powerful workstation/gaming rig.
Aside about interesting non standard 'desktop' potential build
This is a Mobo with a high end integrated AMD mobile CPU (7945hx).. that all together, costs about $430.
And the CPU in this thing... has a PassMark score... of about the same as an AMD 9900X... which itself, the CPU alone, MSRPs for about $400.
So that is kind of bonkers, get a high end Mobo and CPU... for the price of a high end CPU.
Oh, I forgot to mention: This BD795iSE board?
Yeah it just has a standard PCI 16 slot. So... you can plug in any 2 slot width standard desktop GPU into it... and all of this either literally is, or basically is the ITX form factor.
So, you could make a whole build out of this that would be ITX form factor, and also absurdly powerful, or a budget version with a dinky GPU.
I was talking in another thread a few days ago, snd somekne said PC architecture may be headed toward... basically you have the entire PC, and the GPU, and thats the new paradigm, instead of the old school view of: you have a mobo, and you pick it based on its capability to support future cpus in the same socket type, future ram upgrades, etc...
And this intrigued me, I looked into it, and yeah, this concept does have cost per performance merit at this point.
So this uses a split between the GPU having its GDDR RAM and the... CPU using DDDR SODIMM (laptop form factor) RAM.
But its also designed such that you can actually fit huge standard PC style cooling fans... into quite a compact form factor.
From what I can vaguely tell as a non Chinese speaker.. it seems like there are many more people over in China who have been making high end, custom, desktop gaming rigs out of this laptop/mobile style architecture for a decent while now, and only recently has this concept even really entered into the English speaking world/market, that you can actually build your own rig this way.
Fascinating discourse here. Love it.
What about a Framework laptop motherboard in a mini PC case? Do they ship with AMD APUs equivalent to that?