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[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sorry, you're saying that if 85 percent of funding disappears (hundreds of millions), and "weird spending" (including the venture fund, which usually make money) to the tune of 0.3 million (let's make that 2 million, assuming they have several such projects) is cut, then that would be able to sustain Firefox? Because that math doesn't add up for me.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Google pays mozilla iirc around 400m a year, loosing 85% of that yeah, that sucks, sure. but yeah, there is enough to sustain firefox and thunderbird and some other things. If not, something is dreadfully wrong.

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The numbers you have quoted so far don't make a dent in the 400M though - we haven't even reached 1% yet. How much do you think Mozilla is spending on Firefox? How much of that is "extra" per your back of the envelope math?

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Appologies, I am not a tax auditor, I don't have enough spare time to go comb through mozilla's finances to list out every single expense mozilla has. If mozilla can't make do on that funding, they maybe they deserve to shut it's doors for good afterall.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think there's anyone on planet earth who can build a browser at a budget of, say, 2 million USD annually. See also: Ladybird and Servo not being anywhere near ready.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

good thing there would be a lot more then 2m usd left.

Servo and Ladybird are progressing at an extremely rapid speed, using them as an example isn't a good one IMO.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well, let me know when you're using either for your regular browsing. If that's in my lifetime, I'll happily admit they were a bad example (and be a lot more comforted about the state of the web).

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Servo recently had a blog update where they dropped some amazing news, gmail and google chat now works, so while it's not what you were wanting, it is some good news :D

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

ofc they are, I already explained my reasoning for my comments.

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry, you aren't a tax auditor, but you are out here making claims. Try defending them?

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I did. If you don't agree fine, ok. Keep letting mozilla wasting everyones money creating a subpar browser.

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

You are saying there is all of this wasted money, but as soon as you are asked for evidence, it is all "I'm not a tax auditor". Defend your claims!