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submitted 3 weeks ago by yoasif@fedia.io to c/foss@beehaw.org

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[–] yoasif@fedia.io 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This you?

Personally I hope firefox dies as fast as possible so we see some focus on good alternatives.

Gecko is not a good platform, there is a reason why people who use geckoview eventually all migrate away from it, the most recent example I can think of is wolvic, which hasn't replaced geckoview yet, but does have the version 1.0 of a chromium release now.

The sooner we get real alternatives to chromium and stop pretending that gecko is one the better. Currently servo is progressing really fast, has good APIs and usability for both a full desktop browser and embedded usecases (but still very immature).

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes. Mozilla has let firefox rot. Firefox can't even do tasks like render gradients properly (examples of such issue https://play.tailwindcss.com/9hekptcy9b https://codepen.io/art-solopov/pen/VYwwdBK. and refuse to implement stuff like webusb despite the fact that it can be done in privacy friendly ways.

I don't think firefox is a lost cause, but I do think mozilla is a lost cause. I have little hope that mozilla will right the ship, but sometimes things happen that do give me hope.

I do think gecko is quite frankly a bad platform, there is indeed a reason why so many things use blink/chromium as a base and not gecko, is it possible to make gecko into a suitable alternative? sure, but mozilla hasn't gotten even remotely close.

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for letting us know to discount what you say -- if you prefer monopoly over choice, we're really not having the same conversation.

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

literally said the exact opposite in the quoted post. But I get that reading is hard.

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really, when you push immature alternatives when ignoring a real choice. Seems more like you are supporting monopoly by ensuring that actual competitors get ignored - along with even smaller vendors.

"Look, don't use LibreOffice instead of Microsoft Word, what you really want is VIM!"

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

this is an extraordinarily bad take.