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Netcup worth it in 2023? (alien.top)
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Hi, I know this topic already had some posts, but they are some time old, so I am starting another one...

Does anyone know if Netcup is worth it in 2023? Basically I have heard there are some issues with cancellations and such...

I want to move away from my Windows web hosting at another company, because I didn't have enough possibilities.... (Basically ASP.NET Core and PHP and that is it), but I want to try more stuff, so I though about moving to Netcup to a root server (Either 1000 or 2000 one).

What do you guys think, is it worth it? Any better alternatives for similar performance for the price? I am from Slovenia, and I am looking at a max budget of around 16€ after tax per month...

Edit: 2 additional questions...
Would I be still able to have the free SSL via Let's encrypt?

Could I set up the right things to have a mail server set up, so it doesn't go to spam?

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[–] NikStalwart@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What do you guys think, is it worth it? Any better alternatives for similar performance for the price? I am from Slovenia, and I am looking at a max budget of around 16€ after tax per month...

You are going to have a hard time finding a dedicated server for under €16/month. You might be able to get some cheap Intel ATOM boxes from OVH or Online.net. I believe OVH's N2800s are slow AF, while Online.net C270 Avatons "feel" anecdotally better.

But this price range is fairly low.

The good news is that you can get a lot of VPS servers for that budget. I would recommend using lowendbox/lowendtalk to look for deals in the field. Wait a few months for Black Friday and try to get on an annual deal.

Would I be still able to have the free SSL via Let's encrypt?

Yes. No matter what marketing gimmicks people use, Let's Encrypt certificates come from Let's Encrypt, not a special feature of the provider. So, if you can serve a file over HTTP or publish a TXT record to your DNS zone, you can have free SSL certificates from Let's Encrypt or any other ACME-compliant provider.

Could I set up the right things to have a mail server set up, so it doesn't go to spam?

Short answer: yes. Long answer: it takes effort. Some things to look out for:

  • Some VPS providers block SMTP port;
  • Some VPS providers have "dirty" IP addresses — not much you can do about that, the owner of the IP needs to get it removed from spamhaus et al
  • It helps (for spam reasons) if you can set a reverse DNS / PTR record to match your MX hostname. Not all providers allow that, but many do.
  • You can always use an external SMTP gateway like AWS SES, and, for personal use, this should be well within your budget.