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I remember a time when visiting a website that opens a javacript dialog box asking for your name so the message "hi " could be displayed was baulked at.

Why does signal want a phone number to register? Is there a better alternative?

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[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't need Signal to do any of this though, so this doesn't seem like a very plausible theory.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

True, they don't exact need signal. But the thing with exploits is that, once found, they would be patched and they can't use the same exploit again. So they can't just be sending everyone in the country Pegasus. That would make it easier for it to be detected.

So with Signal's help, they have a easier time to select a few targets. They can find out who is using Signal, and correlate that with other data like being near a protest site. Then they only need to target a few Signal users, instead of like sending Pegasus to 5000 protestors, they could find out that everyone is talking to this "John Smith" person, then send pegasus to that user and obtain a lot info And since its only few users being infected, its less likely for the fact that the conversations are comprpmised to be known.

I mean, without requiring phone numbers for Signal, they would have a harder time knowing who is using Signal, and they would end up having to infect all 5000 phones in the protest area, which mean now its much more likely for the spyware to be detected. With infecting just a few of the organizers, their spying can remain undetected for a long time.

As for everyone else not using Signal, they are likely to be using unencrypted messaging, so its not even necessary to infect their phones.

[–] guy@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Why can't they send Pegasus to everyone?

If they can create a fund and invent Signal, they can just make Pegasus part of AOSP and have every manufacturer be forced to install it silently

They could, but again, its easier to detect.

But if we are already under the assumption that Pegasus is so sophisiticated that it's un-detectable. Its possible all this privacy talk is futile and they already have access to every device, which means Graphene OS is also pointless.

I honestly don't know. If you are planning any anti-government activities, the only way to be totally safe is to not carry a smartphone (and obviously wear a mask to conceal your identity and all that) and use One Time Pad encryption and deaddrops for communications.