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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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How criminalisation is being used to silence climate activists across the world (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is part of why I'm not a proponent of going out to protest. There are so many problems and risks with doing so, and whether it's effective or not depends mostly on whether MSM decides to even cover it or make a big deal about it, and then you gotta hope they don't demonize your side. I mean, if you're gonna get in legal trouble, make it worth it and help take down MSM and make it harder for them to demonize the resistance lol.

I'm not saying don't go out and protest, I'm just saying look at it realistically and ask whether there are other actions that would have a better chance at building a better world. I recommend building resilience at the community level, it's hard, especially for introvert types. Help work each other's gardens and learn skills.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Depends a lot on what you do and in which country.

Protests can serve as social proof that there is widespread support for climate action. This is important, and helps bring more people on board and tell politicians that it's worth their while.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Protests can serve as social proof

Yep, I think this is the probably the best use of them.

[–] burningmatches@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

I assume this is an evidence-based argument and you can share the research proving this?

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 months ago

It very much depends. Holding up signs and shouting loud really does depend on the MSM, but blockades and other more disruptive forms of protests are a great tool to actually hurt fossil fuels were it hurts the most, in the wallet.

The thing is we need to do two things at the same time. One is to shut down fossil fuels as quickly as possible and for that protests are great solution. The other part is to build up an alternative and for that protests are really not the way to go, as quite frankly the people in power want to stay in power and changing the system, which brought them power is a bad move by them, unless they are absolutly forced to. Much easier to destroy them and replace them, just like fossil fuels.