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Ventoy?
From the Ventoy developers: the blobs are getting unblobbed.
i been waiting for this so long
There is also a new community fork to get rid of the blobs and bad cert loading. The ventroy dev has made a bunch of concerning choices so some people hard forked the code. I forgot where is was though.
Is this the one you're talking about? https://github.com/fnr1r/ventoy-cpio
That's the one
oh wow that really put the trust back into Ventoy. Nice! Thanks for the link
Happened after a partner product in the Ventoy repo was found to have a pretty major vulnerability due to a... you guessed it, pre-compiled supply chain attack.
Took them over a year to say anything? I have since just gone back to burning single drives and honestly it's fine. Ventoy was convenient but taking a year to respond to a genuine concern is crazy.
I'm going to guess you've never been part of a project with complexity and sheer black magic fuckery comparable to Ventoy. The developer (a singular person) had to make a choice between:
I've read the original issue thread front to back, and it's a fucking clown show. I can't blame the developer for not wanting to engage with those people. Nobody is entitled to the developer's time or attention. Right now the issue is being worked on, which is more than most of the whiners can say about themselves; if you think that's still insufficient, do better.
Mr Ventoy has too many problems
I don't think a simple statement of "I see your concern, I'll address it when I have time" is really that hard for one person to issue when the alternative is, as you've said, letting "a fucking clown show" fester on. It would've made my worries go away if the developer had said literally anything instead of radio silence for a year. Sure, no one is entitled to a developers time or attention. That developer is also not entitled to my trust or recommendation to others when a serious issue was swept under the rug for over a year. There's no doing better when it comes to a matter of personal opinion on how a situation was handled.
just started using this for the first time, Is it still ok to use?
Yes, but people have concerns. Ventoy is fully open-source, but the build process pulls binary blobs (compiled executables, think of them like blob chips) from other F/OSS projects, which is an issue for some people. They have legitimate concerns about trusting Ventoy because they have to implicitly trust the projects that Ventoy pulls from but can't verify what is getting pulled. If such a project were to become compromised (the way XZ-Utils was), it would eventually spread to Ventoy.
That being said, the developers (or singular developer, not sure) are taking steps to reduce Ventoy's dependency on external blobs. It's a difficult task and they have limited resources, but they have acknowledged that it is an issue and are working on a solution.
What a lot of people don't know is that the XZ attack entirely relied on binary blobs: Partially in the repo as binary test files, and partially in only the github release (binary).
If someone actually built it from source, they weren't vulnerable. So contrary to some, it wasn't a vulnerability that was in plain view that somehow passed volunteer review.
This is why allowing binary data in open-source repos should be heavily frowned upon.
I don't believe iVentroy (PXE tool) is fully foss but I could be wrong.
Yea it's fine.
From memory the blob everyone was complaining about was related to eufi and came from Fedora.
Except for the part where it completely nullifies secure boot...
Fine if you don't care about that but it caused a lot of security issues in the enterprise
Just open source blobs instead of proprietary blobs
Off topic, but I'd never heard of Ventoy before and looking at it now, holy shit, I wish I'd known about it sooner.