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My new favourite password manager (keepass.info)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by dbilitated@aussie.zone to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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I've always hated the idea of using a subscription/cloud hosting for password management. I feel like I should have a LOT more control over that stuff and I don't really want to hand all my keys over to a company.

All my secrets have been going in a highly encrypted archive with a long passphrase, but obviously that isn't convenient on all devices. It's been fine, I can open it on any computer but it's not super quick. It does have the advantage of being able to put in multiple files, notes, private keys but it's not ideal.

Anyway, finally found something that isn't subscription, and has a similar philosophy - a highly encrypted archive file, and it's open source and has heaps of clients including web browser plugins so it's usable anywhere, and you can sync the vault with any file sync you like.

Thought you guys might appreciate the find, password managers have always been a bit of a catch 22 for me.

Note for android i found keepassxc the best app, and i'm using KeePassHelper browser plugin, and the KeePassXc desktop app as well as the free official one. Apps all seem to be cross platform.

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[–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yup, I have been using KeePassXC locally since (one of) the first big LastPass breaches. I thought "password manager company... they know encryption" and then kept some of the most important things stored in my vault including notes of Bitcoin seedphrases etc. Thought "even if they get hacked, they wouldn't let anyone exfil the huge amount of data from the USER VAULT SERVER.... thought "my passphrase is like 25-30 chars long, nobody will crack that"...

5 years after my last login and I find out the breach happened, user vaults were exfil'd, the encryption was absolute shit, and the notes weren't even encrypted.

I don't trust cloud companies to keep promises or know what they're doing today. and anything self-hosted isnt Internet accessable unless it's on dedicated hardware subnetted off and wouldn't matter if it got hacked.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bitwarden for example does public reports and is pretty cheap at 10€ per year. But the base (free) offering is more than enough. The fee is only to have TOTP and a bit of encrypted cloud storage. https://bitwarden.com/help/is-bitwarden-audited/

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 2 years ago

The fee is only to have TOTP and a bit of encrypted cloud storage.

And to keep the company alive. It's cheap enough that IMO it's worth paying for if you get a lot of value from it, even if you don't need the paid features.