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[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I will vote against genocide, even if it means voting for a lesser amount of genocide. I'll never vote "no preference" on genocide.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You do you. Though the platform was never ‘less genocide’ the platform was ‘an unwavering support of our ally in Israel’. It was an assumption that trump would be more genocidal, due to his inherent evil. But as far as i can see, trump so far has not escalated that situation any faster than the previous trajectory.

Seems to me that getting the democrats under control, and answering to progressive voters is the better long term play. Maybe they would actually then run on a no genocide platform. You can’t say ’don’t let perfect be the enemy of good’ when we are not even at neutral yet let alone good.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I fail to see how a slap dash ‘AI’ self-fellating video showing something that will never happen and was an attempt at republicans propaganda to its own base changes the needle on the outcome of the genocide in Gaza. What ever fantasies trump or Biden or Harris has over Gaza is irrelevant. The genocide continues unabated, and there is no indication that things would have been any different. Unfortunately for you, one doesn't have to be a troll to point out deficiencies in the Democratic Party. They lost twice to trump for god sake, and they do nothing to defend those he attacks right now. The democrats must change in order to stop the republicans

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mass disappearing immigrants and putting them in overseas concentration camps is more genocide than the democrats did.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is not a genocide. I mean its evil and we should not stand for it. But lets not be hyperbolic over the term genocide. When we are talking about the genocide in Gaza, we are not being hyperbolic.

When looking over more then just the situation in Gaza, trump is undoubtedly worse then Biden. The issue is that choosing the lesser of two evils has brought us to this point, the only way to pass progressive policies is to use the leverage voters have to force democrats to comply. That means if democrats refuse to accept progressive terms, that republicans will consolidate power, and that would be bad. However, in such a scenario, ours and democrat loss would have been guaranteed regardless of a vocal call to task. The only power the progressive voter has is to leverage their vote against the threat the republicans face, and if you capitulate, then best case scenario is the can gets kicked down the road and the democrats become more right wing.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.marxists.org/archive/james-clr/works/world/ch12.htm

One year after Hitler, Stalin and Otto Bauer were still hoping to come to terms with Fascism. Being what they were it is clear that before they had had actual experience of Hitler, the idea of the German workers fighting Fascism would not have crossed their minds. “After Hitler, our turn,” is the concentrated expression of bureaucratic inertia, cowardice, ignorance and short-sightedness, Stalin could not say openly what he meant. He had to dress it up in revolutionary words, to promise the deluded German workers that the revolution would come after Hitler had come to power.

We already tried accelerationism in the 1920s, genius.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s ironic that you accuse me of accelerationism, while you argue for a vote blue no matter who. Do you even know what accelerationism means? I do not advocate for democrats to lose the election, i advocate in having my votes be conditional to the furtherance of interests. The Democratic Party is the agent here, they are the ones who use accelerationist policy in an attempt get people to vote against their best interests, vote blue no matter who has always been a demand to silence progressive voices to meet right wing ‘centrist’ ‘half way’. My stance literally opposes democrat parties current accelerationism.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you even know what accelerationism means?

Not in opposite land. Have fun voting no preference on genocide, enabler.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A democrat president was literally enabling genocide! What the fuck are you talking about?!

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

You didn't vote one way or the other. You voted no preference. You told the government you don't have an opinion on how much genocide you want.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

OK, so your vote is for... hmm... "more genocide", got it.