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Tesla Full-Self Driving Veers Off Road, Hits Tree, and Flips Car for No Obvious Reason (No Serious Injuries, but Scary) (fuelarc.com)

submitted 1 day ago by KayLeadfoot@fedia.io to c/technology@lemmy.world

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A 2025 Tesla Model 3 in Full-Self Driving mode drives off of a rural road, clips a tree, loses a tire, flips over, and comes to rest on its roof. Luckily, the driver is alive and well, able to post about it on social media.

I just don't see how this technology could possibly be ready to power an autonomous taxi service by the end of next week.

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[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Someone who doesn't understand math downvoted you. This is the right framework to understand autonomy, the failure rate needs to be astonishingly low for the product to have any non-negative value. So far, Tesla has not demonstrated non-negative value in a credible way.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee -4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

You are trying to judge the self driving feature in a vacuum. And you can't do that. You need to compare it to any alternatives. And for automotive travel, the alternative to FSD is to continue to have everyone drive manually. Turns out, most clowns doing that are statistically worse at it than even FSD, (as bad as it is). So, FSD doesn't need to be perfect-- it just needs to be a bit better than what the average driver can do driving manually. And the last time I saw anything about that, FSD was that "bit better" than you statistically.

FSD isn't perfect. No such system will ever be perfect. But, the goal isn't perfect, it just needs to be better than you.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 4 hours ago

FSD isn't perfect. No such system will ever be perfect. But, the goal isn't perfect, it just needs to be better than you.

Yeah people keep bringing that up as a counter arguement but I'm pretty certain humans don't swerve off a perfectly straight road into a tree all that often.

So unless you have numbers to suggest that humans are less safe than FSD then you're being equally obtuse.