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ISPs seem designed to funnel people to capitalist cloud services (slrpnk.net)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ellie@slrpnk.net to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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(Sorry if this is too off-topic:) ISPs seem designed to funnel people to capitalist cloud services, or at least I feel like that. And it endlessly frustrates me.

The reason is even though IPv6 addresses are widely available (unlike IPv4), most ISPs won't allow consumers to request a static rather than a dynamic IPv6 prefix along with a couple of IPv6 reverse DNS entries.

Instead, this functionality is gatekept behind expensive premium or even business contracts, in many cases even requiring legal paperwork proving you have a registered business, so that the common user is completely unable to self-host e.g. a fully functional IPv6-only mail server with reverse DNS, even if they wanted to.

The common workaround is to suck up to the cloud, and rent a VPS, or some other foreign controlled machine that can be easily intercepted and messed with, and where the service can be surveilled better by big money.

I'm posting this since I hope more people will realize that this is going on, and both complain to their ISPs, but most notably to regulatory bodies and to generally spread the word. If we want true digital autonomy to be more common, I feel like this needs to be fixed for consumer landline contracts.

Or did I miss something that makes this make sense outside of a big money capitalist angle?

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[–] bort@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are some good ISPs out there. My ISP in Australia (Leaptel) gives me the option to enable static IPv6 /48 for free.

[–] ellie@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No german ISP that i know of does this, it's awful. One doesn't even offer reverse IP ptr entries whatsoever, even if you had a static IP.

You know, what's kind of encouraging is that I posted something similar to this complaint on reddit, and 100% of the responses were corporate apologia how it would apparently be so much work and so much more expensive to provide a static instead of a dynamic IP, or how routing through VPSes is so much better anyway. I hadn't realized the reddit to lemmy brain drain was so bad, which seems good for decentralized morally good hosting.

[–] bhsuarez@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Cries in American 🇺🇸😿