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[โ€“] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

With the following animal characteristics: brain, heart, blood, vessels, sexual organs, muscles, cells, dopamine, water, illness, emotions.... does that mean that every human being is actually something and not someone? ๐Ÿค”

What about babies? They do not have basic language and structural cognition, do not understand basic human emotions, cry out loud for just beeing alive... are they something? Or someone?

I guess it's just a shift of perspective before you actually come to conclusion that Animals are living beeings and sometimes way more "human" than some humanoid i have encountered in my life ^^.

[โ€“] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

every human being is actually something and not someone

no, and this makes no sense

[โ€“] angrystego@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only some people are something - like Jews during WW2. We call living creatures including people "things", because then it feels more ok to kill them. It lowers the empathy.

[โ€“] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they weren't things. treating them like things is part of what made that wrong.

and treating animals like people is also wrong.

[โ€“] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

By treating animals like people, do you mean respecting them and not killing them or letting them work as senators?

IMO treating animals like things is definitely wrong, in the same way treating people like things is. Neither of them is a thing, all us animals are alive.

[โ€“] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

you shouldn't treat animals like smartphones, either. you treat different things differently.

[โ€“] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I think recognizing what is alive and what is not is a question of basic science education. I agree animals shouldn't be treated as smartphones.

[โ€“] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 5 hours ago

bacteria, fungus, plants, protozoa, and (arguably) viruses are all alive, too. bed bugs. rattlesnakes. being alive isn't actually that special, nor a reason, in itself, to refrain from eating or killing that thing.