New Communities
A place to post new communities all over Lemmy for discovery and promotion.
Rules
The rules for behavior are a straight carry over of Mastodon.World's rules. You can click the link but we've reposted them here in brief, as a guideline. We will continue to use the Mastodon.World rules as the master list. Over all, be nice to each other and remember this isn't a community built around debate. For the rules about formatting your posts, scroll down to number 2.
1. Follow the rules of Mastodon.world, which can be found here.
A. Provide an inclusive and supportive environment. This means if it isn't rulebreaking and we can't be supportive to them then we probably shouldn't engage.
B. No illegal content.
C. Use content warnings where appropriate. This means mark your submissions NSFW if need be.
D. No uncivil behavior. This includes, but is not limited to: Name Calling; Bullying; Trolling; Disruptive Commenting; or Personal Criticisms.
E. No Harrassment. As an example in relation to Transgender people this includes, deadnaming, misgendering, and promotion of conversion therapy. Similarly Misogyny, Misandry, and Racism are also banned here.
2. Include a community or instance title and description in your post title. - A following example of this would be New Communities - A place to post new communities or instances all over Lemmy for discovery and promotion.
3. Follow the formatting. - The formatting as included below is important for people getting universal links across Lemmy as easily as possible.
Formatting
Please include this following format in your post:
[link text](/c/community@instance.com)
This provides a link that should work across instances, but in some cases it won't
You should also include either:
or instance.com/c/community
FAQ:
Q: Why do I get a 404?
A: At least one user in an instance needs to search for a community before it gets fetched. Searching for the community will bring it into the instance and it will fetch a few of the most recent posts without comments. If a user is subscribed to a community, then all of the future posts and interactions are now in-sync.
Q: When I try to create a post, the circle just spins forever. Why is that?
A: This is a current known issue with large communities. Sometimes it does get posted, but just continues spinning, but sometimes it doesn't get posted and continues spinning. If it doesn't actually get posted, the best thing to do is try later. However, only some people seem to be having this problem at the moment.
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Thanks for creating it! Are you aware of the newly created !fdroid@programming.dev ? Maybe these two could consolidate? And lemdroid seems as the more appropriate instance
I actually didn't know of it. I would happily welcome @cm0002@programming.dev here.
I actually wanted to make it on lemdro.id but something happened with my account creation process and then also discovered that only some people can make comms? Lol
In any case, I created it because the only other comm was a .ml comm and that wasn't viable
But now that it's on a more fitting instance, I'll def direct F-Droid bound content there lol
Feel free to join #lem.general:matrix.org if needed, admins can troubleshoot account creation
As soon as you post over there, I'll make you a mod.
Done and done lol
Nice 😎
Welcome aboard!
You could maybe even go a step further and post F-Droid content directly on !android@lemdro.id
It's not that busy anyway, and already has quite a few subscribers
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If it's relevant, it'll end up in android too.
As we know, due to the way Lemmy shows crossposts, the larger community will usually get most of the comments and reactions, while the others won't get much.
Recent example
I already suggested the Lemdro.id admins to lock a few of their communities, even !askandroid@lemdro.id could just redirect to !android@lemdro.id for now, it's not like any of them are that active besides the main one: https://l.lemdro.id/communities
There's a clear division. You're trying to micromanage and for what. Let communities exist. People that want to go to the biggest community can. There's been plenty of occasions where I've seen more discussions in smaller communities.
To make the platform grow, so that at some point very popular topics like Android, Football or Lego do not rely on a single person for activity.
The main criticism potential new joiners have towards Lemmy is that it's confusing, because communities exist every twice (!android@lemdro.id vs !android@lemmy.world ) , causing https://lawsofux.com/choice-overload/
Letting communities exist doesn't work when the main competitor is Reddit that has been established for 15 years. Small communities start, the main poster shouts into the void for a while, then stops posting and leaves the platform. That's the whole motivation behind !fedigrow@lemmy.zip
When Reddit started, there were no subreddits. There was a single feed, and everything was there. Then, when there was enough activity, general subreddits started.
You call it micromanaging, but there needs to be some consolidation at some point for the platform to be sustainable.
They can't, in this case, because !android@lemdro.id rules prevents support questions to be asked.
I meant that people can go to another instance. Lemdroid is fine as is. And for the record, you're not attempting to consolidate, you're attempting to artificially fluff.
I'm surprised, as I know you're against centralization of large instances, but this would mean to basically tell people to go to Lemmy.world to have a general Android community.
Not sure what you mean. We both post on !football@sopuli.xyz. Is using a general football community "artificially fluffing", compared to using !premierleague@instance, !seriea@instance, !bundesliga@instance ?
My stance is that using a general football community is good based on the amount of regular posters. I think it should be the same for Android.
If people don't like the way Lemdroid is run, LW is there or any other instance is there and available.
I don't post in football to create content or make it look busy, I post there because I love football.
Then LW will keep being the centralized instance with the vast majority of communities.
That doesn't answer the question: what is an adequate level of detail for an Android community?
People probably love Android too, but don't want to post to a community where there are 7 post in a month, and with 87 monthly active users compared to !android@lemmy.world which has 1590 MAU (!android@lemdro.id has 3k, but we already know questions aren't allowed there)
So it's Lemdroid's responsibility to pander?
Says who? If people want to post to LW or anywhere else, they will. I don't post to !selfhosted@lemmy.world because I don't like the moderation policy, none of the other self hosted communities across Lemmy are as active. Despite that, I still don't post. Because the community isn't a good fit for me.
I asked @Astrealix@lemmy.world to move @gunners@lemmy.world to another instance and he didn't wanna. Despite my strong feelings about decentralisation, I stuck there because community is more important.
I like the admin team and the community of Lemdroid. Whether they're tiny or there's more popular elsewhere. I'm not chasing numbers of trying to act like ActivityPub Jesus, first and foremost is cultivating my good time without letting my ego get in the way.
They were created as an alternative to LW (https://lemmy.world/post/2318814 - ironically, I saw one of your alts then banned, seems like the LW mods didn't appreciate your posts), so in a sense, yes? But I'll probably just open a post on !askandroid@lemdro.id to see what people over there think.
All comments you see mentioning "every time I look for a community on Lemmy to ask a question, it's a ghost town".
You care about defederation and moderation policies. Most users just go for the community with the higher number of subs / MAU. This is the main reason why !privacy@lemmy.ml and !linux@lemmy.ml are still the largest communities by far while !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !linux@programming.dev exist.
In a way, you show it yourself with the second. You have to go to !gunners@lemmy.world because it's the only active community. If there was a similarly active gunners community elsewhere, wouldn't you post and comment there instead?
If we want decentralization, the non-LW/ml communities have to be better, otherwise network effect just brings people there naturally.
If you prefer not to interfere with that, that's okay, but I'm not sure why criticizing people who try to (and it's not only me, you see other people like @threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works doing a great job consolidating inactive communities: https://lemmy.zip/post/40774008) helps with decentralization.
But we're both part of that community. Me suggesting something to you isn't something that happens in a vacuum, it's two regular poster of the community/instance who discuss where posts are made.
The first prerequisite to have a good time is to have people to interact with. This has been know for a while: https://lemmy.zip/post/14347368
Huh? What alt? Banned where?
And this is what I'm talking about when I talk about ego. The Ask Android community is there to enable people to ask questions and find answers, you don't post there and yet you want to close it for your own vanity.
So let it be a ghost town. Again, there's many good communities that aren't the biggest on Lemmy and they're a success. What makes them a success, the fact that people go back and enjoy them.
Those are literally all of the users I'm trying to avoid. My great Lemmy experience relies on me not having to come across those people.
It's just called traction. There was never a compelling reason to move. It's not like football which got locked so everyone was forced to move.
I want Lemmy. I don't want Blaze's Lemmy or my Lemmy, I just wanna Lemmy. Not everything needs you or my fingerprints on it.
Because this isn't coming from a good place.
If you were trying to consolidate android@lw and android@lemdroid and android@whatever I could see where you're coming from, but you're literally just being a community Nazi. I can't support that.
The posts are fine where they are. If I want to discuss features/news I go to android, if I have a question, I go to askandroid
The prerequisite is having some integrity.
https://lemmy.world/post/2318814/1829816
Why is wanting !android@lemdro.id to succeed vanity? I'm not the main mod there (I have an alt mod, but that was to created pinned posts). I just want the community to be active, the whole platform to be active.
Ghost towns get consolidated regularly (https://lemmy.zip/post/36169152)
!askandroid@lemdro.id reflects the Reddit structure, but !android@lemdro.id never got the activity level to justify the split: https://lemmy.zip/post/36094729
I'm not sure people enjoy getting their questions removed from !android@lemdro.id: https://l.lemdro.id/modlog/47 . I quickly checked, they don't post the removed questions elsewhere.
Those are most of the people. You mention vanity and integrity, but you are also shaping the platform in a certain, as we all do, by our actions.
There are only so many of us around here. You posting to !gunners@lemmy.world has an impact on the platform. People posting, not posting, opening new communities, closing some, moderating. Every action has an impact on the platform. There's no abstract "Lemmy", it's only the result of the users actions and decisions.
Everyone should be able to make suggestions on how communities are run. It doesn't mean that other people have to listen (as I stated previously, for me the core factor will be what people want to do, and that's why I wanted to ask on !askandroid@lemdro.id ).
!askandroid is a subset of !android. Not sure why you make such a distinction.
Edit: I just found a post I made a while ago about this exact question: https://l.lemdro.id/post/17408578?scrollToComments=true
There was no clear winner between keeping the communities split or merge them.
I see a deleted post with no context.
Bruv, seriously, why is this conversation even happening and here?
So stop trying to kill it then.
Look, fuck everything else. What Lemdroid needs isn't posts, it needs comments. Real comments. Making it look busier isn't going to do that. This is the same as in the football threads where you post with good intentions and get zero responses. You're aiming for the wrong things.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?userId=332441
It's the opposite of killing it.
Example: a question asked on !android rather than !askAndroid: https://l.lemdro.id/post/8306421
145 comments
Another one, question on !android: https://l.lemdro.id/post/77457 - 190 comments
https://l.lemdro.id/c/askandroid?dataType=Post&sort=MostComments never got more than 51 comments
Activity brings activity
Exactly, and if someone had an "AskFootball" community where there would be 2 posts per week, I would also invite them to consolidate with the main Football community
Agreed, and kinda confused why askandroid would need locking because of a FDroid community 🤔
The thing that gets me is I came across forums for Android just before Digg shit the bed, and migrated to /r/Android where things were all cozy with ~1K-25K members.
But as always the Help Vampires took hold, and it wasn't until the mods realised that peeps submitting screenshots of their
battery stats / problems / or some new feature that is limited to an OEMor whatever, they had to then have a clear set of rules and sister communities such as /r/AndroidQuestions / AndroidApps.Even r/acj (RIP 😖).
I worry even if the numbers are small now, if we consolidate things into a bucket we're likely to end up in the same situation again having to redirect the noise so to speak and going round in circles reopening it 🤷♀️
Yeah, I don't agree with locking either. LemDro.id is fine as it is.
With 7 posts last month, the Help Vampires are probably not in !askandroid@lemdro.id either:
https://lemmy.world/c/android has a few of them, but on average it's one post per day.
But then we would just reopen it? It would be a one-time action, not a circle?
Booooo, I don't see no upvotes 😆
Engagement is key ;)
Any other comment on what was said?
Yeah, like I said via Beeper/Matrix
🇬🇧 LadZ:
Yeah I totally get ya, and I'm just chiming in with what I've seen before and the best people to ask are the subscribers themselves.
Not me a lazy ass mod that doesn't do anything because to be honest this Fediverse shit is cool compared to weddit or even Colesy and the admins
Just my 2¢
Yoinking a community is never fun. I've seen that before.
Should I open a thread on !askandroid@lemdro.id to see what subscribers there think?