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Cross-posted from "Nina going off today" by @seahorse@midwest.social in !antifascism@midwest.social


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[โ€“] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How does letting a cop shoot you, give you "legitimacy"? Self-defense is not some corrupting infectious disease, and a refusal to be bullied is honorable.

I know you won't read this, but at least others should know the religious basis of these pacifist arguments:

[โ€“] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

How does letting a cop shoot you, give you "legitimacy"?

So far no police or soldiers are carrying lethal weapons. But once they do...

Again, Trump is looking for reason to use lethal force. As soon as any of the protestors shoot the police, he can invoke the Insurrection Act as per authority given to him by the constitution. You or anyone don't want to give him reason to do that and legitimise his deployment of force. If it comes to it, YOU wait to be given the reason to use violence on authority. You gain the moral high ground for not provoking lethal violence in the first place. Therefore, it is not pacifism. It's not pacifism to do peaceful demonstrations. Pacifism implies being completely passive and completely rejecting violence in any shape or form. It is not pacifist to both peacefully protest but being prepared if violence erupts. Violence is only the last resort. There is a reason why the court favours someone who was the first to be physically assaulted, despite that person being a complete jerk for being verbally abusive in the first place. You would to prefer to be the person provoked to self-defense, than be the provoker to someone. You lose the public court of opinion for provoking physical violence first. That public court of opinion will shift to the side of Trump if any of the protestors shoot and kill the police or soldiers.