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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That number keeps getting thrown around but this admin dgaf. That number only works when the admin believes in human rights and when the admin cares about it’s popularity.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 14 hours ago

Would you say that Ferdinand Marcos believed in human rights and did not care for his popularity?

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turns out someone who looks like Luigi but is definitely not Luigi proved it takes only one death certificate to initiate change for scores of people

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com -4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

But nothing changed... Can you show a change in healthcare since? have acceptance rates gone up? premiums gone down?

Nothing changed.

Edit: Bunch of downvotes... but nobody can tell me anything that's changed... interesting isn't it?

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Several health insurers reversed some of their latest shitty policies within days of the event. Like the one that would put a time limit in the anesthesia they'd pay for. That's an immediate course change from hundred billion dollar companies.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Like the one that would put a time limit in the anesthesia they’d pay for.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2024/12/06/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-reverses-planned-anesthesia-time-limits-after-intense-pushback/

Elected officials in Connecticut and New York both said they stepped in Thursday to intervene with Anthem’s new plan before the company announced the reversal. New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said on X, formerly known as Twitter, the change was "outrageous" and she would “make sure New Yorkers are protected.” Connecticut’s comptroller Sean Scanlon said his office had already reached out to Anthem and the policy would “no longer be going into effect here in Connecticut.” Scanlon shared that update hours before Anthem announced the reversal.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So a could politicians managed to block it in just their states, but the company reversed it for everyone... And you think that somehow refutes what I said?

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Yes... Anthem is a subsidiary of BCBS that operates geographically and doesn't compete with other BCBS subsidiary...

So literally yes. If they were blocked in their few geo locations... Literally yes.

Edit: They service 8 states. When your biggest state says "fuck no" to your new policy... you reevaluate or roll-back (or go to lawsuit).

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

Well that's settled then, politicians would never lie to provide cover for companies. Nothing else that happened that week could have explained it, the government has done this so often (without even announcing it to the people they want votes from) that this is for sure the only explanation.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Apart from all the claims that were suddenly approved or execs of other companies suddenly removing all personal info from websites?

Fear. Nothing meaningful will change until the rich fear for their lives, and we saw just how much they’re scrambling after 1 CEO.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com -3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Apart from all the claims that were suddenly approved

Source this please... To date, I still see United Healthcare at dead bottom. And rate fluctuating only nominally over the past 12 months.

execs of other companies suddenly removing all personal info from websites?

If you're counting this as a meaningful change to healthcare... Then I guess you found one that I can't contest. Congrats!

Fear. Nothing meaningful will change until the rich fear for their lives, and we saw just how much they’re scrambling after 1 CEO.

No, this is my point. Even with "fear" nothing changed.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They need to fear more, clearly.

Y'all tried tens of thousands of protests but are giving up at one CEO? That's a shitty sample size.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 9 hours ago

Y'all

Speak for yourself please.

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

British India didn't care about human rights

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And Gandhi didn't do jack shit.

Only once violent resistance had forced the Brits away they went "oh by the way it was totally the guy who would have laid down in the street to be flattened by our tanks, in case anyone else wants to try it"

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Gross over simplification and also false.

Edit, for those interested, there hadn't been violent mass resistance in India since the uprisings in 1857. While terrorism and assassinations continued, the Imperial intelligence services (which were one of the largest and most sophisticated in the world) effectively neutered and public opinion in Britain wasn't affected at all.

The Indian National Army which grew in WW2 with Japanese support certainly worried the Imperial governors but it had been obliterated during the botched invasion of India in 1944 and was never able to fully recover, despite strong support in some regions.

The now hugely powerful and well armed British Indian Army was another source of concern but there was no appetite among the officers for revolution and the ordinary soldiers had mixed loyalties.

Most of the violence within India at the time was actually between the Hindu majority and Muslim minority and not directed against British occupation in any large degree.

It was the non-violent passive opposition of Gandhi and the Quit India Movement, and crucially, the British violent crackdown of it, that shifted public opinion within Britain. Once Churchill was ousted, there was neither the public support, or the political desire for further defense of British rule in India and forced them to the negotiating table.

To say violence was what caused the British to pull out is factually incorrect and that the non violent resistance totalled "jack shit" is ignorant beyond belief.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 1 points 22 hours ago

They cared about their public image.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It only works when you are near an election, and the election are coming. This administration is working on a different path: at least one year before the next election and is actively working to make sure (fair) elections might not happen anymore

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

The cited scenarios were rarely democratic in nature.

Of course, in all the scenarios cited, there was no one telling them "get to 3.5% and things will happen", so with everyone saying "if we get to 3.5%, things will happen", that could itself break the "rule", as a sort of self-denying prophecy.