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128 Democrats join House Republicans to block AOC, Al Green bid to impeach Trump
(www.independent.co.uk)
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I have full faith that if the DNC had the votes to remove trump, which is 67 senators and a house majority, then they would go through with this impeachment trial.
They have 47 Senators with caucus. This was never going to accomplish anything, and I'm glad we're saving this for later.
They could have abstained then. Would have had the same practical outcome, but they would not have sent the signal of support to Trump. Also if they had voted in favor it would have shown unity and dedication to fight Trump, something that would have gotten a lot of disgruntled voters back. Instead they made sure to prove that they have learned nothing from the elections and they would rather concede power to Fascism unopposed than stop being murderous imperialists.
I could be wrong but I think Impeachment votes follow voting majority rules, not yeas against totals.
This impeachment is political ammunition, we shouldn't shoot our shot without any chance of nailing our target.
I thought the elected representatives get to vote on every issue that is raised. Do they have a limited amount of votes in the US?
Why save it for later? Because it would impede Congress from accomplishing its business? But it's a Republican controlled Congress that's hell-bent on passing more aspects of Project 2025. So obstruction is really the only play available for the Dems.
If the shoe were on the other foot, McConnell or Gingrich would have held that brake pedal to the floor. Even though we all know there will be no personal consequences, it's a method of Delay, Deny, Defend against the handover to fascism.
Laws pass through congress almost every day, on the 23rd this month the senate passed 13 bills including one that removed the requirement for Alaskan Native Villages to convey land in trust to the state while conducting business. We need a congress even if we don't like the budget bill, the really bad stuff gets filibustered anyways.
Aid must go through congress, arming our allies like Ukraine must go through congress, limiting state's powers must go through congress. Even fucking USPS distribution centers and offices go through congress.
Even if you hold the impeachment trial with no consequences, it comes off to the general public, who a plurality voted for Trump or majority voted for Trump or stayed home, as being unfair and heavily biased so it won't gain any votes in the midterms either.
I am not. There should be an impeachment for every high crime, of which there have been a lot already. The Senate will convict eventually.
Maybe need to wait for blue midterms before getting the ball rolling.