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I don't know any R voter who has a single bad thing to say about what's going on right now. I haven't seen one online either. (except those saying it's not going far or fast enough) I peek at /r/conservative every so often and it's nothing but cheerleading.
And nothing happening right now is a surprise to anyone who wasn't trying not to see it.
They are cool with it, or it's not a dealbreaker, at best.
Arnold Schwarzenegger?
I know plenty of folks... and social media and youtube has a LOT of outspoken Republicans that don't like Trump. I mean, this is not a small number either. I even met some at the NOKINGS protest.
He's not doing anything surprising. He telegraphed exactly what he would do for years. We had 4 years of him trying and failing to do it, then 4 years of him saying he would do exactly what he is doing if they elected him again. And they voted him in anyway.
Their crocodile tears mean nothing, and I'll not willingly associate with any conservative nor Republican until old age takes me in two or three decades, at which time the country will still be recovering from what they've done. And it especially doesn't count if they are whining because their business or their family has been hurt by Trump policies. Republicans caring when they get impacted is nothing new.
you know there are Republicans that didn't vote for Trump too a lot of you paint with way too broad of a brush way too often
The 6% have my apologies.
So do all the Republicans who have been frantically writing their representatives and senators in recent years asking them what the fuck has gone wrong that they are ALL supporting this march to fascism. (and yes, I know about Kinzinger etc, all immediately despised by the rest of R when they tried to stand up to Trump)
I figure maybe there are twenty or so of them. If it was enough to do anything at all, then the entire Republican apparatus wouldn't be supporting Trump balls-deep because it would have been clear to them for YEARS that this is not what Republican voters want. But it's not clear, because the twenty mythical decent republicans writing them angry letters isn't really enough to do jack shit. What's clear is that this IS what Republican voters want.
The other thing making it clear this is what Republican voters want - 94% voted for a convicted Felon, who had given them a preview in 2017, and who had been responsible for Jan 06, and who had spent the past four years making sure we all knew that he would do EXACTLY what he is currently doing.
No conservatives in my life ever again if they aren't there by blood relation, and bare minimum for them. I'm almost sixty. My memories of conservatives trying to fuck everything up for people go all the way back to when I was 13. I have no memories of Republican policies doing anything but what they are doing now. Harming people and helping the rich.
Where we are at right now is the logical eventual outcome of every Republican or conservative position I've heard espoused in my lifetime. This is always where they were headed. They finally got control, and they are being just as terrible as anyone ever predicted.
Fuck it, I'm done. I've spent as much of my life as I'm going to acting like there's any possible way I can be compatible with these people. Every last one is dead to me, and I will not ever, under any circumstances, support a Republican for so much as a street sweeper until the day I die.
I hear you. I do . I mostly agree with what you're saying here too to be perfectly honest but we can't ignore the ground that we can gain either.
WHAT GROUND? I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm angry at you but WHAT GROUND? Will they reject the next truly awful person put up by R, or will they just vote for them again anyway?
I know where my money is at.
They are getting what they pushed for this entire time. They are getting what they had every reason to know was coming when they pulled the lever for Trump (a third fucking time). We're all riding this flaming wreckage together, I'm not going to hold their fucking hand while we go down in the catastrophe they created, all the while being told by them how it's just fucking awesome that we're finally getting things under control.
in almost every red State there's been Republicans protesting against the actions of this administration you can choose to ignore that or not
Like ten republicans? I'm not ignoring it, I've seen zero evidence to support this.
I've seen several regretful Trump voters in news articles.
But yeah, haven't met any IRL either. Including my own parents.
A lot of them took their flags down and sit quiet.
Afraid to admit they were wrong.
I agree
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What gets me is those articles are always like "MAGA civil war over this decision from Trump!" And of course that's what you want to hear, and you think 'finally!' and then it's screenshots of like 3 disgruntled magas on X, one of whom thinks he hasn't gone far enough.
That may be YOUR experience.. not really mine.