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'It's obvious that users are frustrated': consumer rights group accuses Microsoft of not providing a 'viable solution' for Windows 10 users who can't upgrade to Windows 11 (www.techradar.com)
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  • Microsoft recently threw a lifeline to consumers, offering alternatives to paying $30 for extended support for Windows 10
  • Public Interest Research Group thinks this doesn't go far enough in terms of avoiding an impending e-waste calamity
  • The organization suggests Microsoft considers providing longer-term support for Windows 10, or relaxes the spec requirements for Windows 11
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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this right here is ultimately why I haven't moved my relatives to Mint. It usually works but, about time it doesn't I don't want to have to explain to someone who doesn't know what a browser is, how to run commands on the terminal or how to find an error log.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah there's a huge difference between "works 98% of the time" and "works 99.8%" of the time, even though they are both "works most of the time".

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i will however point out that the 0.2% of the time that windows doesn't work has in my experience been it refusing to use the perfectly functional ethernet connection with absolutely no way to interrogate what it thinks is wrong, then i plug the same cable into a linux laptop and it works perfectly fine

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 15 hours ago

Funny ethernet was the most common issue with Linux at a previous workplace. For some reason it would only get like 10 Mbps. Buggy driver presumably. I'm not sure they ever solved it (I had a Mac.)

We're talking about normal people here so they don't really have the option of debugging it either. They can only Google for other people's solutions or try resetting/rebooting everything. So although on Linux it's technically possible to fix any issue (e.g. on Windows leaving a playstation controller plugged in prevents sleep and there's nothing I can do to fix it), in practice on Linux there's nothing normal people can do to fix that sort of stuff either.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 18 hours ago

Haha, yes, with windows, you don't correct the errant setting, you reset the network settings and try again.