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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 68 points 1 year ago (19 children)

will be expanded next March to give access to people whose sole medical condition is mental illness, which can include substance use disorders.

So not drug use, but mental health conditions which the government considers drug addiction to be.

This will never be used by a drug addict. It will be used by people with untreatable and severe schizophrenia or similar afflictions. If you don't want to live in a nightmare world with no hope I think it should be your right to end it peacefully.

I get suicide makes people uncomfortable, but you're uncomfortable with it in a cozy apartment and good health. You think your protecting vulnerable people from a big scary government, but you're just forcing them to suffer needlessly.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Given that the intent here is to make assisted suicide legal for people who by definition are not of sound mind what protections are in place for people who would qualify for assisted suicide by way of mental health issues but also might not be fully competent to make this decision themselves? Who can step in and say that the patient actually is competent, and by what standards is that judged? Who can step in and say a patient that wants assisted suicide is not competent, or has been manipulated? I'm not worried about people who are genuinely suffering, the fact is we've never been able to stop them from killing themselves and we never will be. I'm worried about someone putting poison in the ear of someone with a treatable disorder, convincing them to "do the right thing and not be a burden".

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fight to make these services easier to access then. If they are easier to access, the poison wont take. If you waste all your pooitical energy fighting this, and then dont have enough to fight for better social supports and easier access to them, well then you've just made things worse

Edit: I've chosen life, I know how dark depression and hopelessness gets, but I've also been abandoned by my family and original community, and have spent almost a decade now being my own support network in a metropolis where I cant keep a community for very long. Our social support systems are GARBAGE right now and if I ever DID end up chosing death, I wouldnt want some bleeding heart like you who's going to fight this instead of making community supports easier to access blocking me from ending my suffering. Living alone with multiple different conditions that prvent you from being stabily employable is fucking hard, and if it's not something you've chosen its cruel to leave someone with no way out if it

Edit 2: I like the downvotes with no comments, really shows that people want to just be against something to feel good about themselves without having to think about the consequences of denying said thing

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I agree with you. I'm pretty sure some Nordic countries have had this policy for some time, too.

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