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[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Heres a more pressing quandry. What are we going to do about the fact that Technology continues to kill more jobs than it creates, and is starting to do so at a faster rate. There isnt enough livable wage paying jobs left to allow everyone access to proper food and housing.

Edit: Also, UBI doesnt need to fulfill ALL needs, there are many luxuries and ways to better ones life and social standing that would provide enough of a carrot for enough of the population to seek ways to contribute. The flip side that people who are worried about societal contribution I have 2 points:

1: Do half of the highest paying jobs we do now contribute all that much to society? It really seems nowasays that the highest paying jobs include the highest levels of exploitation

2: If people are freed from being forced to work to pay their bills, more people would ve free to volunteer, our society is so work heavy its incredibly hard to convince oneself to donate what little time one has left afterwards to a volunteer organization

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

What are we going to do about the fact that Technology continues to kill more jobs than it creates, and is starting to do so at a faster rate.

Yeah, that is a big deal.

There isnt enough livable wage paying jobs left to allow everyone access to proper food and housing.

For starters I think that minimum wages are too low in North America. Anybody working full time should be able to afford a place to live without roommates. Housing cannot be an investment vehicle if we want it to be affordable.

If people are freed from being forced to work to pay their bills, more people would ve free to volunteer

Some pensioners do some volunteering, but on average the amount they contribute to society is a small fraction of what they did when they were working full time. Society needs enough full time workers to fund the ongoing cost of a first-world nation.