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Much worse, unless you hypothesize that Trae become a player we've only seen in short spurts in his entire career: a guy who is locked in on defense and plays hard after he passes the ball.
Trae is really really good with the ball in his hands. He, for his career, has been largely mediocre when it's not in his hands, on both sides of the floor.
With Jokic you don't really want the ball in Trae's hands.
Do yall even watch the Nuggets last season? There were many times where Jokic sat or even with him on court that, he would let Jamal run the offense.
You're overthinking it. Think about what Murray does and if Trae can do it.
Run PNR? Trae can do it better.
Run the offense while Jokic sits? Trae can do it better.
Close out games? Murray has done it in higher stakes, but Trae isn't scared of the moment either.
Trae is a more consistent scorer and undebatably better passer. Defense is the only downgrade, which people constantly mis-attribute in these debates. He takes a lot of bad shots, which Jokic would be able to help. He's not a cutter, but he can score from anywhere and is a great catch-and-shooter.
for all that upside you get with trae on the team when jokic doesn’t have the ball, there’s a whole bunch of downside for when trae doesn’t have the ball. murray is way better off ball than trae. why would you want to go from a player who is good next to jokic regardless of whether he has the ball to a player who will only be good in certain scenarios
Question: did you see the nuggets’ two man game with murray and someone other than jokic? Cause its godawful, murray isnt great offball and the only reason trae is called terrible off ball is that he had the worst fucking ball handlers in the league on his team
Trae is an improvement in every single aspect except defense which both players are awful in