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TL;DR: Studies show they do the same things as and have the same effects as Medical Doctors.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

I don't understand why an MD would want any association with the pseudoscience that osteopathy is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathy
Marketing I guess?

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (8 children)

No clue why you're being upvotes when the very first paragraph of the source you cited contradicts you. DOs are great, and definitely not pseudoscience peddlers

It is distinct from osteopathic medicine, which is a branch of the medical profession in the United States.

[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

That's not a contradiction, the fact that it is the page you get from searching the term is exactly their point.

Looking at the page Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine, it even seems to point to both having the same origin (1874 USA) and later changing:

Osteopathic medicine (as defined and regulated in the United States) emerged historically from the quasi-medical practice of osteopathy, but has become a distinct and proper medical profession.

Be it resolved, that the American Osteopathic Association institute a policy, both officially in our publications and individually on a conversational basis, to use the terms osteopathic medicine in place of the word osteopathy and osteopathic physician and surgeon in place of osteopath; the words osteopathy and osteopath being reserved for historical, sentimental, and informal discussions only

Though also...

DO schools provide an additional 300–500 hours in the study of hands-on manual medicine and the body's musculoskeletal system, which is referred to as osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM). Osteopathic manipulation is a pseudoscience.

and from the related sources:

Mark Crislip also pointed out that DOs are using less and less osteopathic manipulation in their practice. This is a good thing, and hopefully it will eventually completely fade away. Essentially we need to distinguish between osteopathic medicine, which is mostly equivalent to standard medicine, and osteopathic manipulation, which is pure pseudoscience akin to straight chiropractic.

EDIT: Also it really sucks that things are muddied like this, I have a neck problem and there's a potential solution that uses a precision machine but I have no idea if it's a real procedure or just more quackery. I've asked a few times and got no responses or just downvotes. Though I also don't know if the chiro places near me have it or the needed x-ray capability.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If its a chiropractic thing then it's quackery. If not do you mind sharing the machine?

[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

do you mind sharing the machine?

Atlas Orthogonal Percussion Instrument*. Basically it pushes the top vertebra back into alignment based on the precise angle needed.

For some background, the cause is I had whiplash many years ago. I also likely have EDS (a potential factor for the low-speed whiplash) so it's possible even if this machine has some basis it might not be a reliable fix for me.

* often called just the first 2 words

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, that's some chiropractic bullshit. With EDS you have a much greater chance of a chiropractor fucking you up and its a neck issue, would be a hard fuck no. There's been repeated studies showing that chiropractor manipulation of the neck has a greater than acceptable chance of death, paralysis, stroke, and arterial dissections.

Order of operations

  1. PT and massage therapy
  2. A relevant specialist (you dont mention what issues you actually have) and this may lead to
  3. surgical intervention
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