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[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (17 children)

But what's the injury rate for scooter km's travelled?

We use that to obfuscate car injuries, why do scooters get a different treatment.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I am not in favour of car-centric transportation but cars very rarely explode and burn your house down when you sleep. Electric scooters come with a whole different set of hazards compared to cars, but yes, injuries per km does help to add context.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To play devil's advocate:

Do you have a clothes dryer in your home? A stove/oven, rice cooker, air frier, oil fryer, etc?

Those cause more house fires than anything else. E-scooter house fires are extremely rare, and usually only as a result of using non-certified batteries and chargers.

It's almost unheard of to have a UL certified e-scooter or ebike catch fire.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem is that non-CSA approved batteries and chargers are being sold in Canada with absolutely no regulation.

If you look at fires per unit sold the scooters and bikes are probably an order of magnitude higher than stoves and dryers.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Sounds like you have nothing against escooters, you just have an issue with under-regulation for battery safety

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If electric scooters catch fire, that's something that needs regulations to fix, but it doesn't mean that cars are better.

also, Didn't know that Scooters and IDF shared strategies

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The scooters aren't trying to burn down Palestine, they are just giving up on existence and hoping to take their oppressors with them.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

oppressors?

we are their gods, we created them, feed them, control every aspect of their existence.

them setting themselves aflame to kill a god is way more epic than what your described

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What is a god, if not an oppressor?

almost the ultimate oppressor, the greatest one is a person's inner self, tethering to a reality no one consented to be in

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's why we keep anything powered by electricity outside of the house. Who knows when a gameboy could catch fire and explode and burn your house down???

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Har har, the issue is the joules of energy stored in the battery and how quickly it can be discharged. A pair of AA batteries store the same energy as ~5grams of TNT but they can not release it all at once. An electric scooter or bike battery stores the equivalent energy to a large car crash and can release it in seconds due to the chemistry and construction.

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