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For your own safety you should really ask about their political ideology before meeting them. Make sure to not let them fool you either, never tell them yours first.
You can sus people out other ways. The point is just to not let chameleons say whatever you said because they're horny.
I mean, I don't think it is.
I am entirely lost.
Sahara is saying not to date republicans, and not to let them trick you. I'm saying the same thing.
If you meet someone who, presumably like you, absolutely will not say anything until you do, then the both of you should write it down on a card and reveal them at the same time.
Or, you should say something about building a border wall. See if they bite.
Or, you should take them to see the Barbie movie. See if they shift in their chair too much.
Like, there are solutions to this problem, and I feel like you're just not willing to see them.
As a corollary, imagine you're gay in the 1960s. You can't tell anyone you're gay because you'll get beaten in an alley. But, you would still like to find other gay people. How would you do this?
No, not literally... Okay.
MotoAsh, you have to engage people in better faith.
"Make sure to not let them fool you" is a goal, "never tell them yours first" is just a strategy being offered to meet that goal. I understand the implications of this "poorly stated" version just fine: this isn't programming, you can break the strategy's rules sometimes. I trust people taking this advice to apply good judgement.
The only reason to argue with Sahara here in the way that you are is if you think they're actually trying to trick people into being lonelier via some kind of yugioh trap card logic. Do you get the impression that they're trying to trick people into being lonelier via yugioh trap card logic?
I'm not the one confused, I understood Sahara just fine. I'm more confused why we're 10 comments deep into, essentially, Sahara's choice to use the word "never."
I'm asking this seriously: how do you handle sarcasm? Or hyperbole?
Okay, so the word "never" is being used here in its hyperbolic form to, tactfully, strengthen the rhetoric. It impassions the speech to deliver a point with more verve than another choice would.
The message is easy to receive. What is it you gain by being this needlessly contrarian?
just don't date white people
play the odds
white isn't a race it's the social construct that means the absence of race
Irish stopped being a race when they were accepted into whiteness by becoming police in large number
That's why it's literally impossible to be racist against white people
reddit.nazi
Advocating for the reproduction of white babies ✅
Telling anti-racists what they should be doing ✅
You're shrieking with baby's first rage at the thought of people avoiding dates with white people because of the exactly correct definition of whiteness that you already baby's first conceded.
You already conceded that white is not a race; it's the social designation of who deserves privilege in society. So I don't understand why you're talking out of both sides of baby's first mouth.
Mate, using your logic "black" isn't a race. This is also technically true, but not really how the term "race" is used. Taking your logic and applying it to this term that is widely accepted caloquially as a race, you end up being able to say that it's "impossible to be racist against black people" which would be seen as a racist remark.
nah that's not my logic you're just a fucking moron
Explain how it isn't? Typically once someone resorts to name calling in a discussion it's a good sign they know they're in the wrong.
fuck you
you explain how the shit you decided to write is my logic
fucking asshole pompous piece of shit hypocrite
self oblivious dumb motherfucker
Fine, I'll indulge you.
This is both true and false. By all accepted definitions of race that I could find, white counts as a race. However, race as a concept is a social construct. Some folks back in the day decided to categorize people by things they have in common. (e.g. physical attributes, geographic location, genetics) However, this doesn't have any basis in science due to there being more genetic variation within the defined races than between them. Most biologists and anthropologists don't accept race as a scientifically valid biological classification.
This is false by all definitions of race. Race is just a collection of people sharing similar attributes, so the "white" race absolutely counts, considering all "white" people share a similar characteristic: skin color.
This one threw me for a loop, as I'm not really sure what you mean by this. Irish is 100% still a race, as they are a group of people that can be defined by geographic location. There are groups that don't think they belong in the greater "white" race due to some historical beefs, but at the end of the day, most definitions of the "white" race include Irish folks, as they have white skin.
This part doesn't make sense. By the most common definitions of racist, it's possible to be racist against any given race. Some definitions of racist that I read in school did change that by adding a clause for racism being prejudice towards a marginalized group. In that case, it wouldn't be possible to be racist towards the greater "white" race, as they have never historically been marginalised. However, this definition of racist hasn't been widely accepted, as it almost exists to prevent being able to say racism towards the "white" race exists.
If you think that it's impossible to be racist towards a race that is all-encompassing like the "white" race, then, unless you're using a different definition of racist, then if would be equally impossible to be racist towards the all-encompassing "black" race.
No need to lash out just because people are calling you out for your misunderstanding of your own words. Given how your sentences are written, English might not be your first language, so there's a good chance that this misunderstanding comes from a translation or language barrier. Hopefully I have cleared things up!
"NU UH!!!"
Wow what an academic
Never seen someone just bullshit before while using quotation formatting. You're putting on a clinic of being a slimy dishonest asshole
Oh! Okay! So once you deliberately strip race of all cultural and material context white can be declared a race 'because they look the same'
Well if you're willing to just compartmentalize literally everything until your premise is affirmed then you can tell yourself anything, can't you?
You've chosen a definition of race that's completely useless for everything except one task: to be able to claim victimhood for the privileged class
HOW FUCKING STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO LECTURE SOMEONE WHEN YOU OPENLY ADMIT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON
REALLY FUCKING STUPID
Bet you're white. "My feelings are more important than your facts and I'm elevated from you enough to speak without even knowing them" is extremely white coded
Please, point out where I'm making stuff up. With zero efforr responses like these, I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to respond to you. If you think I'm lying about the definition of race, here are all the human-relevant definitions of race in several dictionaries, almost all would suggest how I'm using race is the most common:
Race as defined by The American Heritage Dictionary
Race as defined by Marriam Webster dictionary
I didn't strip my race definition of anything. I'm using the definitions above. Me using the "look the same" example was to help solidify that race is a social construct, not that white was a race.
I'm not compartmentalizing anything. I'm using the dictionary definition of race. If you mean something else when you say race, then please, tell me your definition.
I've used a definition of race that fits 4 of the 7 dictionary definitions that I've seen. Yes, I guess I'm not using the ones regarding ancestry and genealogy, but those just segment what a race is further. Under those definitions, "black" isn't a race.
I understand the historical event you are referencing, and I understand that, in some places in the world, Irish immigrants weren't part of the "true white" race until they became racist towards folks without white skin and became police. What I don't understand is what that has to do with anything we're talking about. That doesn't make "white" any less of a race, that just means that white people in the past were extra racist, being racist against people from a different geological location, not just being racist by the color of their skin.
Please, point out where I am using feelings and you are using facts. Please, point out anything I've said that is not truthful. That's how arguements are done, and that's what I've been doing to everything you've said from the beginning. From my end, you have yet to have an argument that is more than "YOU'RE STUPID" without addressing a single thing I'm saying.
Why the fuck would anything you're saying be meaningful or productive in an argument about something I said?
You know what? I give up.
Just being obstinate.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Unless you've got something meaningful to add, I'm calling it here. You argue with 100% emotion, never adding anything meaningful to a conversation. Glad you can admit that you're just being obstinate
Fuck off you fucking 'no u' child
All "races" are social constructs, there are no biological races for our species and the way we define social races isn't even uniform across different cultures.
And that is actually a profoundly racist statement that roots many portions of white supremacist ideology.
While it's quite easy to argue that white people are in no danger of becoming ethnically prosecuted in most of western society, your statement that it's impossible to be racist against white people is got a built in logic contradiction and is therefore invalid by nature. Even without the contradiction, all it takes to take down a blanket statement like that is finding a counter-example, and that's so trivial I could find historical examples in less than five minutes.
okay crakkker
Oh I hate to break it to you, many people of color are very conservative, and some are also maga supporters.
The real advice is don't date people from known conservative places, go to liberal cities where you can at least know they are more-likely-than-not, to be at least left-of-center, and possibly a leftist.
I know it might have gotten lost in the huge post with multiple paragraph breaks
Man you'd think. Some ppl just use politics to hide shitty behavior. Polis don't mean shit. See how friendly and helpful they are to strangers. Ppl thank can't offer anything.
It's not the end-all-be-all for filtering out assholes, but nobody was suggesting it was. Most of the remaining filters are done before or during dates