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In 2015-16 Kobe had the highest salary in the league at $25 million.

He put up 17.5/4/3 with the 4th highest usage rate that year playing around 28 MPG. Shooting splits of 36/28/83 for the 7th lowest TS% in the league. Meanwhile, the lakers finished bottom of the West with a 17-65 record.

Looking at advanced metrics: 2nd worst plus minus per game, 4th worst defensive box plus minus, 7th lowest win shares and 2nd lowest WS/48 (both negative) and all of which are the worst among Lakers players that year.

I understand he was injured and it was a farewell tour but purely from a production relative to salary perspective is this the worst season by a player ever or would it still be better than e.g a star being injured all year or refusing to play but making the max.

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[–] HatefulDan@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

In advance, I understand the question, but given the subject matter and the player you chose as an example, it comes across as a bit of an attempt at engagement mining.

Kobe made more money for the Lakers than what they could've ever given him on his farewell tour...Kobe is STILL making them money even though he is no longer here.

Again, I understand the question but you didn't choose a great example. You went with something more akin to a hot take.

Just my .02 cents.

[–] OkKindheartedness769@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

No it’s a fair critique, I’m not a fan of legacy contracts so that probably factored into why I used the example and like you said he put enough people in seats to makeup the money anyway

[–] momsbasement420@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't know if culture matters as much in basketball anymore because a lot of players move around so much now, but it does set a good precedent as an organization to take care of your own later in their career. It can attract future players at least theoretically

[–] OkKindheartedness769@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess it depends on what kind of culture you want to promote, Timmy D took major salary cuts as his production dropped and he got older which atleast in my head is sending out the message of here the team and it’s performance always comes first. Obviously you can’t blame Kobe for taking the bag he was offered but I just don’t like organizations promoting the star is bigger than the team

[–] sae1ohh@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

huh? why would they pay Kobe less when Lakers weren't going anywhere anyways. They weren't trying to bring in star players to win a ring. Lakers fans didn't give a fuck about that contract.

[–] OkKindheartedness769@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

But that’s quite literally my point. Lakers gave Kobe the 2 year max extension rather than asking him to take a cut and trying to sign free agents when he was already washed from injury because of his fan love/box office appeal and prioritized the farewell tour over rookie development for the same reasons: the culture is about putting on a show through the stars not ensuring consistent team success a la the Spurs. You’re quoting the culture to refute my criticism of the culture.

[–] baseketball@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lakers attract players just because of the location and franchise history. If they want to overpay an old injured Kobe, I've got nothing against it, but I don't think the legacy contract helped or hurt them in any way.

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