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Ok, capitalism bad, but are we actually pretending that feudalism isn't worse?
we also created farms and art before feudalism. feudalism is also a capitalist structured society. capitalism did not come into existence when adam smith described it, he was just discussing how feudalism gates access to the commons through access to power. capitalism has existed for 12000 years, at least, we only started calling it capitalism in the 1700s. the key features of capitalism are owners of wealth generating resources, and workers who are paid to generate wealth using these wealth generating resources. in the age of feudalism, the wealth generating resource was the land itself, and how the ownership class acquired it was through their access to violence.
I don't think c/flippanarchy is advocating for feudalism in their critique of capitalism, but I could be wrong!
There's not much else to choose from if you are looking at cities, etc, built before modern capitalism.
You are missing the point.
Here it is again: Capitalism is not a requirement for human advancement.
If that's the point, then stop pointing to the past as an example of it. All that's proving is that there are worse options we have tried.
Is it?
Admittedly we don't know loads about but Mohen Darjo and early Uruk look pretty good, and some Mayan cities and American Indian nations seem like they had very good standards of life pre-Europeans too.
Feudalism isn't particularly far removed from capitalism. Even its natural shift to what is often called cronyism is a basically feudalism without the titles.
Nobody is pretending that. Get real.
Can I link this post next time I run into someone saying exactly that?
Holy fuck bud. You know what the post was about. Nobody, with any real credibility, is making an anti-capitalist argument that is also pro-feudalism. This post can only be construed as pro-feudalism if you squint, turn your head sideways, and shove it up your own ass.
Holy fuck bud, this post doesn't exist in a vacuum.
Wow, so profound. Should we have to consider every argument some dipshit makes/might make every time we open our mouths? Is that what context means? Of course it doesn't. Ridiculous. Back to the context of this post, there is no stretch of the imagination where OP was making a pro-feudalist argument.