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To be fair though, "Just let them in" isn't very promising either, if you're not keen on having far-right governments..
The far-right governments are not being voted in based on material shortcomings produced through immigration or refugees.
There are material shortcomings based largely on wealth inequality and the immigrants/refugees are a scapegoat.
If we start throwing others under the bus to appease the far right we lose by default. We must demand and provide a life of dignity for everyone, this is a distribtuion issue.
True. But they are voted in based on perceived or feared material shortcomings produced through immigration or refugees. And they are scarily successful with this.
In politics, emotions can be as important as facts, whether we like that or not. When after Fukushima the German sentiment towards nuclear power soured even further, the government reacted although nuclear power rationally didn't become more unsafe there, it was a decision largely based on emotions. (Absolutely not trying to incite one of these toxic online nuclear debates, just the first example that came to my mind)
I guess the main problem here is that there is no rock-solid and clearly transparent mechanism in Europe governing refugees and immigration. Or even clearly distinguishing the two. Each country is tinkering with its own solution, although European laws and regulations exist and overlap each other. Some regulations such as Dublin only exist on paper, some countries don't want to participate at all.
All of this leads to a system that fails to convey trust. And if the population has doubts in a system, it is very easy for an extreme party to further accelerate these doubts.
Yeah, I am there with you. There is a book ont the topic thatI like (altough I disagree on many things with the author) called "the way is shut" by benjamin studebaker. It is way too expensive, but I heard of some pdfs somewhere...