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Fuck all this "let's not celebrate the gruesome murder of a political opponent" bullshit, the man was a stochastic terrorist. Let's dunk on the douchebag and piss on his grave together. I hope more fascists like him get it through the neck

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[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They've always wanted that. The question is if this allows them to push harder.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I mean yes, this... literally is directly what they wanted...

I can't predict the future, but... I did grow up with, come from a family of these kinds of people.

I very much fear that ... yeah, yes, this is sufficiently traumatizing to them that they will lash out.

My... first target of rage I'd suspect they'd pick, is trans people... they've already convinced themselves shooter was trans, I'd say any prominent trans left wing personalities are in a significant danger of some ... basically, a revenge killing.

EDIT: See my other comment.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

At most this moved the current administration's timeline forward, and that is truly all.

It's been less than a year and look at this place. National Guard in Chicago was to be their next escalation after troops in LA and DC didn't provoke the reaction they're seeking.

This administration has 100% been deliberately agitating for any kind of violent response to their increasingly fascist actions, to legitimize extraordinary executive powers and military rule among their base. Once their base believes that's necessary, we are fucked.

This will almost certainly produce a violent response from the right, no disagreement there. But not one that wasn't already guaranteed to come our way. There's no amount of playing nice with fascists that ever gets them to stop or even slow down. This administration is elated to have this opportunity.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean... ok, if it moves the timeline forward... it still does that.

Is that not more or less the same thing as 'allows them to push harder'?

Beyond that quibble... pretty much totally agree, they've already done a lot of bad, and it probably was inevitable that some point or threshold.... actual, targetted shooting back would occur.

Unfortunately... I think we may have now hit, or at least come a lot closer to the 'we are fucked' point... see my other comment with Trump's response speech.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I probably ought to have phrased that in a way that sounded less like disagreement. And I'm not eager to move the timeline forward and I'm aware of the harm that entails, so I shouldn't trivialize it either.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i dunno, maybe it'll be the national guard in orem instead of chicago

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

I somehow doubt that'll have the intended effect, and that would also be more consistent with the material reality than going to Chicago, AKA another point of doubt lol, but who knows?