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[–] hazardous_area@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How long can your knight hold its breath and how much fire damage are you doing per round? I think you may run out of air first. Definitely an interesting idea if it’s already hurt.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If its 5e, he can hold his breath for 1min + a number of minutes qual to the constitution modifier, which should be at least +2. That 30 rounds, with a lv 2 heat metal that's 60d8 or a 270hp average, with a lv 9 heat metal that's 270d8 or 1215 average. Water breathing spell is also super easy to get though one could say the inside of the kraken isn't exactly water.

[–] XM34@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or he's just one of the dozens of races that can just decide to not beathe...

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Well yeah but kinda hard to swap if you aren't already one of those races.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Necklace of Adaptation lets you breathe normally in any environment. There's an Air Bubble spell in Astral Adventurer's Guide you could use instead of Water Breathing as well.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Very interesting! Though both are significantly harder to obtain than water breathing ofc

Also, tiny little detail I forgot to mention: heat metal is only 1min duration haha

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Harder than Water Breathing, but the necklace should be easier to get than the armor or ring mentioned in the original meme

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

oh yeah, not even sure those exist, its a 'combo' that requires a lot of pieces

[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

/theydidthemath

/theydidthemonstermath

though one could say the inside of the kraken isn't exactly water.

That's why the post says "ring of acid immunity" ;)

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

That comment is about Water Breathing. Technically the inside of the Kraken wouldn't be water so the spell wouldn't work.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

5E characters can actually hold their breath for a silly amount of time, there's a solid chance here.

Assuming the knight has a +4 Con mod, they've got 5 minutes or 50 rounds before they suffocate. Heat metal averages 7 damage per round without upcasting, so you can expect around 350 damage before you pass out. A kraken has 150 hp on average, so it's done for

Amusingly, the rules do not technically specify a condition for the kraken to voluntarily regurgitate something, only for it to do so when triggered by taking a lot of damage in one go. Obviously no sensible GM is going to say that it can't do that, but by the most miserable RAW-only approach this plan actually seems to work

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Now imagining a Kraken desperately trying to throw-up an Eldritch Knight while the Knight is trying as hard as possible to stay inside the Kraken.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

BRB, writing to Ask a DM to ask about the propulsive force of a Kraken's gag reflex...

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

I feel like an opposed strength check would be the easiest way to settle that

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago

"Can I use my pitons to stay lodged inside?"

lol I’m used used to pf2e and pf1e were drowning kills, a lot.

Also that’s hilarious that it actually works. 5e is such a good time.